Talk:E. E. Cummings
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E.E. Cummings or e.e. cummings? Danny
- e. e. cummings would be correct in this case, but that won't stop the system from changing it to "E. e. cummings". I don't think there's any way to force a lower case character in the initial position. Eclecticology 10:26 Aug 9, 2002 (PDT)
- Bummer ... :-) Danny
- This link to Not e.e. cummings (http://www.gvsu.edu/english/cummings/caps.htm) goes to a veritable talk page of Cummings scholars on the topic of his name. Virtually all of them favor the conventionally capitalized name, as does the scholarly E.E. Cummings Society, which actively pursues malefactors, and Cummings' widow. The page is most entertaining, as it seems that people will cling to the "e.e. cummings" spelling. And, after you've digested that, check out the followup link, More not e.e. cummings (http://www.gvsu.edu/english/cummings/caps2.html) which includes an amusing 5th-wave cartoon on the issue. Ortolan88 13:10 Aug 9, 2002 (PDT)
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e. e. cummings vs. E.E. Cummings
While this topic was discussed, no consensus was made. The previous comment notes that te lowercase was only a cover idea and was never intended to remain that way forever, but in the article it states that the lowercase is the "proper" way to spell it. Either way, I would just like a decision so that either "proper" can be removed, or given the wrongtitle template and the article added to the Wikipedia:List of pages whose correct title is not allowed by MediaWiki page.
Abracadabra. "Proper" is gone, replaced by "traditional affectation". There's nothing "wrong" about the title "E. E. Cummings". - Nunh-huh 05:53, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Capitalisation again
Aren't we going to stick with whatever the person used themselves in cases of contention? That would be E. E. Cummings. I'm going to be very bold and move the page, but I'll keep an eye on this page in case someone wants to discuss this further. --fvw* 17:58, 2005 Jan 5 (UTC)
- I've fixed the redirects to this page. Many of them were still pointing to to old location, resulting in quite a few double and triple rediects. It's cleaned up now, but What links here (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=E._E._Cummings) should be watched, as many editors will be inclined to lower case this name. Jonathunder 20:30, 2005 Jan 23 (UTC)
This page seems to move back to e. e. almost of its own accord. I'm sure that it's been moved to E. E. several times in the past. -- Derek Ross | Talk 19:11, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
Racism/Anti-Semitism
I had never heard those before, and the offsite refference only says, "His later, more conservative poetry came under attack for anti-semitism, a charge that is still debated," with no refference to racism at all. Now I am not an expert on his oevre, but I (a Jew) have not read anything that seems anti-Semitic, and don't really think, short of a specific example (because this alledgedly comes from his work and not his demeanor or anything like that), that the criticism of anti-Semitism should be in there. Jacib 03:12, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- I'll get on it. I have his Complete Poems, I'll look up the one in question. [[User:Blankfaze|]] 03:13, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Poems in question, as to anti-Semitism and racism
As to anti-Semitism:
a kike is the most dangerous
machine as yet invented
by even yankee ingenu
ity(out of a jew a few
dead dollars and some twisted laws)
it comes both prigged and canted
As to racism:
theys sO alive
(who is
?niggers)
Not jes
livin
not Jes alive But
So alive(they
s
born alive)
some folks aint born
somes born dead an
somes born alive(but
niggers
is
all
born
so
Alive)
ump-A-tum
- tee-die
uM-tuM
tidl
-id
umptyumpty(OO---
!
ting
Bam-
- do)
,chippity.
[[User:Blankfaze|]] 03:45, 26 May 2005 (UTC)