Talk:Discworld
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Discworld is similar to Middle Earth as it is a creation by a single author. But unlike Discworld is linked off Terry Pratchett, Middle Earth is not linked off JRR Tolkien. This will be a moot point anyway once subpages no longer exist. -- Ap
Anyone planning to write pages for individual books? I'd do it except, uh, I don't want to. :). AW
- I have written a few and plan to do more (I've just read the whole series). I also plan to rewrite the main page a bit and do more on the characters and such. -- poco poco 10:48 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)
no point in making the title longer: does anything else need to be at "Discworld"?. And don't do "cut&paste" moves, please (see the FAQ for more) -- Tarquin 22:02 Dec 21, 2002 (UTC)
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Classification
Is Thief of Time a Death novel? Yes, susan and death appear, but as side characters - the book is mainly about the history monks. Daveryan 06:06 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- For me this is a Susan novel, Susan is a relative of Death, so the book can be added to the "Death" novels. If there will be more Susan novels (I am look forward to that! ;-) , then we can group it to "Susan", if the History-monks get more novels, then they could also be used as a new group. Fantasy 06:40 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- I'd say the Tiffany books are probably witch books; Hat Full Of Sky features Granny Weatherwas in a major role, and is almost as much a sequel to The Sea And Little Fishes as it is to Wee Free Men. I'd also say that Thief of Time is a "Death" novel; Susan is one of the main characters, just like she was in Hogfather and Soul Music (she's just as significant relative to Lobsang as she was relative to Buddy, IMO), and her grandfather plays a significant supporting role, just like he does in the earlier books (Reaper Man is the only one that's really about Death himself).
- On the other hand, I'd say The Last Hero is a Rincewind book, so maybe I'm to easy with the categories 8-). Daibhid C 23:24 24 August 2004 (UTC)
On a related note, could Moving Pictures be classed as a Wizards book? It does introduce the personalities of most of the figures who are prominent through the rest of that group. -FZ 00:12, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Children's books
I hotly dispute the claim that A Hat Full of Sky is a childrens' book. To be fair, though, I just finished it and haven't come down from whatever's the literature equivalent of being high yet. -- Kizor 22:45, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
- To quote the author (during a discussion yesterday on the use of chapters in the new book... "A Hat Full Of Sky is a children's book, just like The Wee Free Men, Truckers and the Johnny Maxwell series". Sorry! --Dan Huby 11:11, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
- Righto. --Kizor 15:49, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
help, please
There's a query at Talk:Great A'Tuin in re H-R diagrams. Can anyone help with this?
- It's been answered now. --Paul A 06:46, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The Last Hero: mass market edition?
Does anyone know if there are plans to release The Last Hero in a mass-market paperback format (i.e. normal sized paperback)? --Phil | Talk 10:52, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
List of Novels
I've added a couple of possible future novels talked about in 'The Art of Discworld' to the list of novels - maybe it might be better to put these into a [new] future novels section. --NeilTarrant 20:50, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Change focus of this article
I think that it might be best to change to focus of this article to the Discworld itself, taking out all the novels (and related work) information to something like Discworld publications and works (been trying to think of a decent title for ages!). There is plenty to say about the Discworld itself and I think it should be written separate from the novel/play/etc. information. violet/riga (t) 11:19, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Please see User:Violetriga/inprogress for a rough general idea (needs a lot of work so feel free to play around there). violet/riga (t) 11:48, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I think that the idea of splitting the article into two isn't a bad one, but I think that the article about the novels, etc. should be the one at Discworld. Information about the novels is of a much wider interest than the specifics about the world itself. If I were a random reader who had never before heard of Discworld, I'd be much more interested by the fact that it was a best-selling series of 30+ books and various spin offs than I would be to read about various fictional continents in a context withe very little to establish notability.
- I think we should keep the "real world" elements where they are, possibly expanding to cover, for instance, sales figures, awards won, longevity, literary themes, or so on. This can establish notability to the casual reader, who can then go on to read the minutiae of the world itself at a different page -- possibly something like Discworld (world) -- if they so wish. Rho 12:41, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Very good suggestion - I reckon we should do that. I'm thinking of merging some of the continent articles together as shown in a very rough draft here and expanding it to cover different aspects of the world. violet/riga (t) 12:47, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Right, this has all been done:
- Discworld contains all the information about the books etc.
- Discworld (world) contains all the information about the world itself
I think that any reference to the former should be italicised and any reference to the world shouldn't be; that will allow some form of disambig between the two. That may involve quite a bit of work and I by no means think all the Discworld articles are brought together properly quite yet - WikiProject anyone? violet/riga (t) 19:42, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I'm up for it. I've found a lot of stuff that I want to change since I started poking at the discworld articles. Rho 01:51, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
WikiProject
There is now a WikiProject for the Discworld articles – please lend your support at Wikipedia:WikiProject Discworld. violet/riga (t) 00:12, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Stealth Philosophy
I recently added the section on Stealth Philosophy. This is my first wikipedia entry, so I'm not certain as to how good it was... still, I felt it should be added. =)
The Nth novel in the Discworld series
Hello. I love the series and happen to own quite a few the books, and one thing I have noticed--as I tend to read the sort of "inner blurb" or whatever you call the piece of writing next to a rather dark picture of Terry right at the beginning of the books--is that they usually say something to the effect of "Moving Pictures is the tenth novel in the phenomenally successful Discworld series". This is alright up until Nightwatch which the book says is 27th, Monstrous Regiment 28, Going Postal 29th, but the articles on wikipedia seem to differ because, as I figured out, they include the 3 Young Adult novels and the 1 Illustrated novel in the numbering scheme. Would it be possible to rather have a scheme for Discworld novels like this:
Novels: 1-29... Illustrated novels: 1.. Young adult novels: 1-3... ?
It is also what http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/authors/Terry_Pratchett.htm (and the books themselves) seem to use. --Ajshm 14:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- I wouold include the illustrated novels with the novels because of the I believe that Eric has both been released with and without illustrations. I don't think that it makes sense to make a differnce between them here. L-space (http://www.lspace.org/books/apf/index.html) puts all Discworld novels in the order they have been realesed. My personal oppinion is that we should number the books as they appear in the template – that we should count the children's novels separtly. Jeltz talk 15:16, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
About Eric, it has indeed been released first with illustrations as a "Discworld story" (?) and later without illustrations in the vain of previous books. The Last Hero has never been released without illustrations, in fact, the paperback has more illustrations than the hardcover. It's not as if I want to somehow snub TLH, it is a great and very special book. But somehow I think that something that is written in the books takes precedence "x is the nth novel in the...", or at least it would seem strange to ignore this.
I have changed the template a little bit, which incidentally makes it more compact. All Discworld novels (Discworld themed novels by Pratchett) are under the Novels: heading, not separating YA Novels, they are a "sub-list" along with the illustrated novel TLH. --Ajshm 16:05, 25 May 2005 (UTC)