Talk:Cheddar cheese

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I've never heard that there is a Cheddar cheese family, but I can accept that. However, I would think it very unlikely that Wensleydale and Caerphilly belong to it - they are very very different types of cheese, being white and crumbly rather than solid and yellow/orange. Are we quite sure this is true? Deb 17:29 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)

I agree with Deb. I don't think there is a Cheddar cheese family. All the cheeses listed are very different in taste, colour, and texture. Anyone object to an update ? Julianp 02:32, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

• "English cheeses such as Gloucester, Cheshire, Leicester, Lancashire, Derby, Wensleydale and Caerphilly all belong to the Cheddar family." as per [1] (http://www.cheesenet.info/cheesenet/library.asp?action=read&ID=4) -- Nunh-huh 02:43, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi Nunh-huh (how do you pronouce that !) I checked out reference [1] and it still seems wrong to me. I'll check out some local references and see if I can find any evidence for it. Julianp 02:47, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi. It could be wrong, but just wanted to indicate that the idea of a cheddar family wasn't without support. I wonder if it might not be that using place of origin / technique of manufacture / taste as criteria might not lead people to different ways to classify cheeses and that what sounds right using one method of classification sounds wrong under another? And I've never heard it said aloud, but I'm proposing that the 'h' in Nunh is silent<G>. -- Nunh-huh 03:26, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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Removed: According to the Aardman Animation cartoon characters Wallace and Gromit, the Moon is made of cheddar cheese. This in itself is a perpetuation of an extremely old and persevering English folk myth, frequently related to gullible youngsters, which made and still to this day makes similar assertions.

If I recall my Wallace and Gromit correctly, they didn't identify the type of cheese that the Moon was made of. And does the old myth (no, wait, it's true!) about the Moon being made of cheese specify that it's Cheddar cheese? As far as I know, it doesn't. So I've removed the whole thing. -- Oliver P. 13:26 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

It usually specifies "green cheese" (meaning unripened, rather than a color), not cheddar. -- Nunh-huh 02:45, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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"Like many cheeses, the colour of cheddar is often modified by the use of food colourings. Annatto, extracted from a tropical tree, is frequently used to give cheddar an orange colour

Is this a US thing? In my experience if its orange it isn't cheddar. Propose to remove. Any comments? Julianp 03:41, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Your experience differs from that of Food Network (http://web.foodnetwork.com/food/web/encyclopedia/termdetail/0,7770,1121,00.html) and Food reference (http://www.foodreference.com/html/fcheddarcheese.html), but I don't know if that has anything to do with nationality. - Nunh-huh 03:48, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Some UK cheeses are coloured orange (e.g.Gloucester) but never cheddar. Of course some colouring may be used for consistency is mass-produced cheddar cheeses (but not orange). I now live in Australia and there is no orange cheddar here either. Shall we make it an "In the U.S. ....." ? Julianp 04:06, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I wouldn't add anything based on personal experience. Is there some source somewhere that discusses national cheese traditions? I wonder, like you, if it's not more a matter of mass-produced vs locally-produced. =- Nunh-huh 05:38, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

As a Brit (and a cheese), I'm here to tell you that we do in fact have artificially orange (or "red") cheddar over here (and yes, it tends to be of the mass-produced, mild, rather tasteless, variety). --Camembert

King Henry and his cheese

A pipe roll of King Henry II records the purchase of 10,420 pounds (4.73 tonnes) at a farthing per pound (£5.51 per tonne).

Just a note for whover wrote this: you're correct up to figuring out that this is 551 pence per tonne (2205 farthings per tonne, and a tonne is 2204.62262 pounds). But this was old money, and there were 240 pence in the pound, not 100. I've changed it accordingly. Marnanel 18:39, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Cheddar is a village, not a town

I have corrected this article to say that Cheddar is a village, not a town. I then reverted a reversion of my correction. In addition to being a resident of the village, and its own Wikipedia article a quick internet search has shown the following sources that correctly site the settlement as a village: [2] (http://www.cheddarsomerset.co.uk/), [3] (http://www.cheddarvillage.co.uk/) and [4] (http://www.somersetbythesea.co.uk/content/view/19/40/). Thryduulf 16:32, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

So go edit Cheddar and remove it from Category:Towns in Somerset before you come back. Or just forget this silliness. Gene Nygaard 16:48, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've corrected the category Cheddar is in. It seems people have a penchent for calling it a town. It is not a town and never has been, the next settlement Axbridge is a town, although it is smaller than Cheddar. The reason for this is that it was granted a charter by King John to become a town, as at that period in history Axbridge was the more important place. Cheddar didn't start growing to the size it is today until the Victorian era. Thryduulf 16:57, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I was mostly interested in pointing out how silly the whole thing is. Even if you hadn't changed the village's category, I don't really care. I live in a "city" myself—even though it has a lot fewer people than either Cheddar or Axbridge, it has a lot more than some of the other cities in Wikipedia, such as the city of Wellington (pop. 561)! Gene Nygaard 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I imagine we'd have to ship you off to Bedlam if you ever had to deal with the "village" of Rock City or the "city" of Prairie Village! Gene Nygaard 19:23, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)