Talk:Charlie Parker
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"His intellectualism and broad, academic interest in world music were famous, and influential. His total refusal to pander to audiences, which some thought historically resonant with the minstrel tradition, is emulated by many serious musical artists still, black and white." -- I don't quite get this addition--though Parker recorded one Latin jazz session for Verve & was strongly interested in 20th-century composition (bits of Stravinsky pop up in his solos), this seems (1) definitely not academic & it's hardly as thoroughgoing as his peer Dizzy Gillespie. -- The passage about not "pandering to audiences" is simplistic, too, as if the only alternatives were abject commercialism or avantgarde aloofness. --Ndorward 17:32, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- The beboppers in general had an aloof attitude -- not having one made Dizzy Gillespie even more important -- but I don't know that Charlie Parker was some kind of proto-Miles Davis, turning his back on the audience. Not even Miles did that until years later, after he was famous, and even then he dressed beautifully. What evidence is there that Parker "refused to pander". What about "Charlie Parker with Strings"? Ortolan88 17:54, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Indeed. Parker pandered plenty. People do when they've a monkey on their back, because pandering = paycheck. There were many tours on which Bird merely went through the motions, rehashing old solos and ideas, just to keep the money coming. GWO
"(though the "official" cause of death was a bleeding ulcer and pneumonia)"
- Why is official in quotes?—Trevor Caira 14:09, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Official cause of death was pneumonia - Jazz and Death: Medical Profiles of Jazz Greats. Frederick J. Spencer, MD. University of Mississippi Press. 2002
Any particular reason to not mention the Clint Eastwood's movie about his life? JidGom 20:38, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)
Apart from being one a dimensional view of Parker's life??
I've added some more substantial discussion of Parker's style & also a little on his drug problems & their impact on his followers. But much more remains to be done here--the biographical information is terribly sketchy. Considering that Parker is one of the key figures in 20th-century music this ought to be a far richer entry.
- I started fleshing out the biography with more detail. More to come later. --Craigz 21:20, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing that, Craigz. Cheers, -Willmcw 23:10, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)