Talk:Baltimore Ravens
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I don't agree with the shift of Cleveland Browns content to the Cleveland Browns page. The old Browns and current Ravens are linearly the same franchise, with the same owner and carrying over much of the same management structure and player personnel. The new Browns are an expansion team with new owners and personnel. As is correctly pointed out, the current franchise owns the old trademarks and stuff, but that's not relevant; it's like saying that Michael Jackson was a Beatle because he now owns the rights to the old Lennon-McCartney songs.
Willing to be persuaded; otherwise, would recommend switching it back. -- RjLesch
I am inclined to agree. While it is true that the NFL decided to transfer the teams history, the fact remains that the Baltimore Ravens were not an expansion team. They had the same players, coaches, and management as the old Browns, and it is they new Browns that are the true expansion team. Jeff8765 15:42, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)
- But currently, the NFL and all its official records technically treats the Baltimore Ravens as an 1996 expansion team who just got same players, coaches, and management as the old Browns. The Browns are treated like the team suspended operations from 1996-1998. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:40, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)