Talk:BMW
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The 8 series is a 90s car, not an 80s car. The 6 series did not end production until 1989. The 8 series was not introduced until 1990.
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X5?
X5: BMW's first SUV, this vehicle has all the dynamic qualities expected of a BMW, and set new expectations for SUV design
Is there any evidence to back this up? The X5 is highly limited soft-roader. It is a poor vehicle both on and off road, and is sold purely on its image. Even BMW admit the vehicle should be driven carefully due its poor handling. From the company who built the M5 and recently sold Land Rover, this is a poor cash in. akaDruid 15:36, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
BMW
Is also the initials of 70's reggae greats Bob Marley and the Wailers.
This association is still carried on today, indeed some youth sub-cultures refer to BMW as 'Black Mans Wheels'
Beemers
Here in the UK, the word "Beemer" is commonly used about the cars; I've virtually never seen "Bimmer" here. Loganberry 14:36, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Same goes in Australia. - Vague | Rant 02:20, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Sounds like it's regional, clearly. In the US, that distinction goes back to the mid 70s, at least. I'll clarify it. -- Baylink 21:26, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The BMW Bavaria?
Maybe I should just do some research and add it myself, but nowhere in the article is the BMW Bavaria mentioned. This model was the immediate predecessor to the 5-series, and was seen at the time (mid 70s) as combining the features of the 3.0 CS and another model I've forgotten, at a much cheaper price. My dad had one, but being a toddler at the time my memory's a little fuzzy, and he wouldn't even let me drive it.
TJSwoboda 19:03, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- The history section could stand to be expanded *substantially*. -- Baylink 21:27, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
please add 2002tii
the BMW 2002tii was an orphaned page. It should probably be linked to from this or another relavent page. Please someone with more knowledge on this subject add it where appropriate. BAxelrod 03:26, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I've linked it from the BMW New Class page and put it in the BMW Vehicles category, which is probably all it needs to be linked from. The main BMW article has an odd layout (the cars are listed inline on the page instead of on a List of BMW Vehicles subpage) and there really isn't room to discuss derivations of the 2002 in the section on the page now. Nevertheless, the 2002tii page still needs a whole ton of work, and I'm really not the person to take care of it. --Milkmandan 04:08, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC)
- I also added a toplink to BMW New Class. This is what we've often done for special versions of a car. --SFoskett 12:23, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)
Model pages becoming unmanageable
I've noticed that the BMW model pages are becoming increasingly disorganized. When I first started diving into these pages (around six months ago), there weren't any platform pages and even the M3 page didn't exist. In the last few months, however, we've got so much content that I'm very afraid that it's going to start falling in on itself.
The biggest problem that I see is data duplication. There is quite signification information about the M5 at both the BMW M5 page and the BMW E34 page (luckily, the E28, E39, and E60 pages are all stubs). Having this information in these different places is likely to cause a big problem in the future as data is added asymetrically.
Honestly, this probably isn't a really big deal right now, but if the growth in the last six months can be used as an indicator, then we're in for some messy merges in the future if this isn't cleaned up pronto.
I suggest 1) the development of a BMW model description policy, and 2) the distribution of this policy across the talk pages of the BMW model line. I suspect that the details of the policy will be controversial, but that putting those details across all the pages will not.
How reasonable does this seem? Am I overreacting? Is there support for organizing how BMW models will be discussed in individual pages? --Milkmandan 06:06, 2005 Feb 4 (UTC)
- If I understand what you are saying, and I think I do, then I support it. We need to agree how to spread information between the main model pages (e.g BMW 5-Series), the 'platform' subpages (eg. BMW E60), and 'special' model pages like BMW M5. I'd be happy to help discuss how to do this.
- Regarding the duplication on BMW M5 and E34, that's my fault. When the M5 stub was created it only mentioned the existence of the E60 model so I just copied the info from BMW E34.
- I don't think there is any need to get in a panic though. This is Wikipedia, so if something goes wrong, we just revert it. At worst we'll have to merge a few pages. SamH|Talk 10:59, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Series Generations list
Is the Series Generations list necessary on this page? Given that the model pages all link to the individual generations (BMW 5-Series links to BMW E60 etc.), I don't think it is. SamH|Talk 17:43, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)