Talk:Asia

Contents

1 West 2 Cyrpus missing from the table, but included in the "Southwest asia"-region 3 Area of cross-continent countries 4 Suggest 3 possible wiki links for Asia. 5 Sentences ok? 6 satellite image 7 Asia is not a continent?? 8 Manufacturing

West

• What is West Asia meant to refer to?
  • Usually, the term West Asia is a synonym for the Middle East, or southwest Asia. If the part of Russia west of the Ural Mountains was considered to be part of Asia, that would obviously make up a large part of (north)west Asia, but that's considered to be in Europe. Hope this helped!

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The description of the seperation between Europe and Asia says "The boundary between Asia and Europe runs via the Dardanelles, the Sea of Marmara, the Hellespont...". Now, according to the page on Hellespont, that word is simply the ancient name for Dardanelles. So, shouldn't Hellespont be replaced by Bosphorus? Gyan 01:30 Apr 19, 2003 (UTC)

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Can someone please make a color coded map of what they differentiate between West, Central, SW, East, North, South and SE Asia?

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A term: Greater Central Asia; meaning that of Asia that the Central Asian Republics have been influenced etc, http://www.international-relations.com/wbeurasia/WBEA-2003-Lec1.htm

Cyrpus missing from the table, but included in the "Southwest asia"-region

in the table with countries Cyprus is missing (maybe becouse it is island) - this should be fixed (maybe with a note that it also is regareded as european country for xxx reasons - see the "Europe"-page)

Area of cross-continent countries

In the table with area sizes - the area for Turkey mentions the whole area of Turkey, including european part. Maybe this should change to include only the asian part. This is the Asia page, so when we list the area of some country we should list it's ASIAN territory - or at least a note should pe placed that gives explanation: Turkey total XXX sq.km = YYY asian + ZZZ european.

Other cross-continent countries have similar ommissions - Russia, Azerbaidjan, etc. - see Europe page for details. Similar case with Egypth - both asian and african territories, no distiction, no note ...

Suggest 3 possible wiki links for Asia.

An automated Wikipedia link suggester has some possible wiki link suggestions for the Asia article:

• Can link land mass: ...ned by subtracting [[Europe]] and [[Africa]] from the great land mass of [[Africa-Eurasia]]. The boundaries are vague, especially...

landmass dabs to continent, which is already used. This link would not enhance the article. --Theo (Talk) 11:38, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Can link island nation: ...]], which comprises part of the nation of [[Turkey]] * The island nation of [[Cyprus]] in the [[Mediterranean Sea]].... (link to section)

Implemented. --Theo (Talk) 12:06, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Can link West Bank and Gaza Strip: ...uded, although they can also be considered part of Europe. West Bank and Gaza Strip are not listed separately, but combined as Palestinian terr... (link to section)

West Bank and Gaza Strip dabs to the individual territories so this is not an enhancement. --Theo (Talk) 12:24, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Notes: The article text has not been changed in any way; Some of these suggestions may be wrong, some may be right.
Feedback: I like it, I hate it, Please don't link to — LinkBot 11:32, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC) --BrendanRyan 02:16, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sentences ok?

Are those sentences from the Southwest Asia section ok?

"Middle East is especially commonly used by Americans (althought frequently incorrectly - as though 'Middle East' and 'Asia' or 'Middle East' and 'Africa' are 2 different regions). 'Middle East' (to some interpretations) is occasionally used to also refer to countries in North Africa."

--BrendanRyan 08:43, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid I think they need some work. The first one is just confusing. I think I know what you are getting at, but it might be clearer if expanded somewhat. I wouldn't use the term "incorrect". These are overlapping designations used for different purposes. It is not like someone has tried to divide the world into a set of discreet regions and accidently put some countries in two. Some people do not understand the distinctions between the terms, but that doesn't mean the terms themselves are "incorrect", just that some people are bad at geography.

I asked about those sentences because they were written by the same person who wrote really POV stuff in the North Asia article.--BrendanRyan 02:16, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the inclusion of parts of North Africa in the Middle East is only "occasional" so I'm going to change that myself. Wincoote 01:20, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

satellite image

Cantus, you removed (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asia&diff=next&oldid=10848220) my xplanet image, re-inserting the Plate Carrée Projection projection (without comment). Now, the reason I created that image was because that projection results in extreme distortion when showing a variation in latitude as great as required to show the entirety of Asia. I argue that the simulated 'satellite view' gives a superior impression of the shape as well as the size of the continent in relation to the globe. dab (ᛏ) 17:47, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Asia is not a continent??

Recently, I saw someone edit Asia (disambiguation) saying "Asia is not a continent". Anyone able to put this in detail?? Georgia guy 01:11, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I did. Read Eurasia and Talk:Europe#continent or not. Geologists and geographers agree that the Asian continent doesn't exist; Eurasia does. Dividing Eurasia into Asia and Europe is a cultural distinction by Westerners. They may be separate regions, but they are not separate continents. Europe is geologically a peninsula of Eurasia, not even a subcontinent. - TAKASUGI Shinji 01:27, 2005 Mar 24 (UTC)

Presenting as a fact that Asia is not considered a continent is just wrong. Why? Because plenty of people consider it to be a continent, "Westerners" are also people you know. Wikipedia should not present this POV as a fact. --Bjarki 23:00, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is not a POV. In daily speech, the term continent refers to a world region including surrounding islands, thus Great Britain is a part of Europe and Japan is a part of Asia. Neither of them is a part of a geographical continent. Just see a map, and you'll see they are islands. - TAKASUGI Shinji 01:11, 2005 Apr 26 (UTC)

Manufacturing

The examples of companies and such is heavily Japanese. I think five countries are listed as being heavy manufacturers, maybe someone can make the list five examples, one from each, rather than four japanese and a korean company? SchmuckyTheCat 21:54, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The current ratio is appropriate. The economy section of this article should be deleted though, because it is in the Economy of Asia. The followings are Asian companies in the top 100 in the Forbes International 500 (http://www.forbes.com/2003/07/07/internationaland.html) (2003).

Japan:

4. Toyota Motor

5. Mitsubishi

6. Mitsui & Co.

9. Nippon Telegraph & Telephone

11. Itochu

14. Sumitomo

15. Marubeni

16. Hitachi

17. Honda Motor

20. Sony

21. Matsushita Electric Industrial

24. Nissan Motor

25. Nissho Iwai-Nichimen

37. Toshiba

50. Tokyo Electric Power

53. NEC

54. Fujitsu

66. Mitsubishi Motors

73. Mitsubishi Electric

79. Sumitomo Mitsui Financial

85. Mizuho Financial

87. Ito-Yokado

93. Nippon Oil

95. Aeon

96. Millea Holdings

98. Canon

100. KDDI

South Korea:

35. Samsung Electronics

65. Samsung

97. LG Electronics

China (including Hong Kong):

52. China Petroleum & Chemical

75. PetroChina

No company of other countries is listed in the top 100. India's largest one is Indian Oil Corp (#118), and Taiwan's largest one is Cathay Financial (#183).

Japan is too big to fit well in the Asian economy — Japan's nominal GDP is $4.7 trillion, while Asia's total nominal GDP is only $8.8 trillion, which means Japan accounts for more than a half of the economy of Asia. Japan, and perhaps South Korea, should be categorized in the economy of developed nations or something, not in the economy of Asia. The current version of this article has the following sentence, which is rather silly because there is no cheap labor in Japan, an economical half of Asia:

Many Western companies from Europe and North America have significant operations in Asia to take avantage of its abundant supply of cheap labour.

- TAKASUGI Shinji 09:15, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)