Talk:Abbasid
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The Umayyads were not descended from Umar. I have corrected that claim.
DigiBullet 09:45, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)
the Sack of Baghdad: February 28 or February 10 ?
The Wikipage on Baghdad shows February 10, 1258, instead of February 28, as the date of the sack of Baghdad. Can anyone confirm this, please ? -- PFHLai 05:51, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)
This site has all the dates:
http://www.deremilitari.org/RESOURCES/sources/baghdad.htm
Hard to figure out exact date since it apparently went on (including initial negations) for a month or more OneGuy 09:53, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reference, OneGuy. I can't find any mention of Feb.28th. And I quote:
- ... the caliph and his three sons, Abu'1-Fadl Abdul-Rahman, Abu'l-Abbas Ahmad, and Abu'l-Managib Mubarak, came out on Sunday the 4th of Safar 656 [February 10, 1258]. With him were three thousand sayyids, imams, cadis, grandees and dignitaries of the city. ... The people disarmed themselves and came out in droves, and the Mongols killed them....
- I suppose this means February 10, 1258 was the date Baghdad fell to the Mongols. I'll edit the article accordingly.
- ...At the end of the day on Wednesday the 14th of Safar 656 [February 20, 1258], the caliph, his eldest son, and five of his attendants were executed in the village of Waqaf...."
- I'll add this date of the execution of the last reigning Abbasid caliphate in Baghdad (February 20, 1258) to the article.
- Thanks, again. :-) -- PFHLai 18:31, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)
"Second Class Citizens"
The concept of the "citizen" didn't emerge until the French Revolution, therefore no one was a second class citizen because there was no such thing as a citizen. Someone should fix this, because I'm too busy to think of a better way to reword this, but if no one changes it by weekend, I'll fix it up. Canadian Paul 07:07, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure Ancient Rome had a developed sense of citizenship. - Bryan is Bantman 02:15, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)