User talk:Peter Ellis

Removed full text of Welcome by Isomorphic 05:47, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC) (Peter Ellis 12:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC))

Hi Peter, thanks for your note at the New user log. Your interests are impressive! BTW, Wikipedia runs on MediaWiki (http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki); the developers would certainly be pleased if they were to read your praise of the software's usability. Anyway, welcome; I hope you enjoy contributing here, as I have. Chris Roy 22:28, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Brake article dup

Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you created a new article Brake (box and pan). I believe it's a duplicate of Bending machine and have flagged it as such at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles. Can you decide whether it's a duplicate and merge as appropriate? I'm afraid I don't have enough background knowledge to do so myself. (It's been 25 years since high school shop!) Thanks! Samw 03:04, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Good call by Samw. I have incorporated Bending machine into Brake (box and pan) and fixed the one page linking to Bending machine so it can now be deleted. I can't see how this is done. however. Probably by someone with greater 'powers' who feeds on Wiki-vibes in the dark hours! (Best wishes to them :-) Peter Ellis 05:18, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

After merging pages, the one which is no longer necessary should get blanked and turn into redirect to the other one. Wikipedia:How to edit a page describe how to create redirects. I've done that for you. Przepla 20:01, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Inquiry

You've led me to ask. Are you a Canberra resident? Also, are you in the military? You can always e-mail me if you like. Arno 08:34, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Ie tried, but can not work out HOW to contact you, Arno! Peter Ellis 12:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Mexican breadfruit

Thanks for doing that merge and adding that information to Monstera deliciosa, I think it was a good thing and improved the readability of both articles. FYI, I've gone and made some modifications I thought made the article easier to read, and separated the fruit out into its own section to make it more prominent, since I think the fruit is one of the most interesting things about the plant and thus would be more engaging to the reader. Feel free to edit as desired. I suspect you are more of a botanist than I :) Thanks again! --Jkeiser 05:35, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Please see my comments at Talk:Monstera deliciosa where I am 'outed' as simply enjoying the fruit. Peter Ellis 05:53, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Fairey Gannet

Hi Peter and thanks for the great article on the Gannet - an important type not covered here for far too long! In the last week or so, WikiProject Aircraft switched over to a new way of presenting aircraft specifications and related material (after about a month of deliberation). You can find the new standard described here. If you're interested in adding more aircraft, you might like to consider listing yourself as a participant of the project (on the main project page). Cheers! --Rlandmann 06:32, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Australian wikipedians' message board

Hi Peter. I've created a page (with an idea blatantly plagiarised from our Irish counterparts) where any interested Australians can get together and coordinate efforts to fill some of the (rather large) holes in Australian content. If you're interested, it's at Wikipedia:Australian wikipedians' notice board. Any assistance you could give would be appreciated. Ambi 06:03, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

List of Canberra suburbs

I've created List of Canberra suburbs, so Canberra can start catching up to some of the other cities in terms of articles. Would you be able to take a look at it? I'm not a resident (yet), so I could well have made some mistakes. Ambi 12:02, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well done, and I'll continue to check. May I suggest Canberra by Suburbs (http://www.suburbs.canberra.net.au/html/fsregion.htm) as a good and official reference. I've added some planned suburbs in Gungahlin, and Paddy's River--Tharwa as an obvious omission that non-Canberrans would easily miss. And, well picked up that Hall is separate from Gungahlin! Peter Ellis 06:03, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC) I have a long-term goal to complete the descriptions of the Canberra districts (e.g. Belconnen (district)) and will take this list as the template. We also have to get onboard with Stromlo and Kowen as the "next big things". Peter Ellis 06:15, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I made up the list working from that very page - I think I'd have been lost without it! Is there anything around Stromlo and Kowen that should be in there? I really appreciate the help, as it's a little hard to be sure you've got it complete from 700km away. Ambi 07:00, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Um... I realise that I was being too obscure. The Canberra Plan (http://www.cmd.act.gov.au/canberraplan/) includes the Spatial Plan (http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/plandev/sp-intro/index.htm) and it deals with Stromlo v Kowen as future growth options. Stromlo is centrally located and near where the Gungahlin Drive Extension links to the road system at Glenlock Interchange (south-west of Black Mountain). Alternatively, there is an upgrade of Fairbairn Avenue in progress past the Australian War Memorial and this will ease congestion for those travelling from Kowen when the ACT Government decides to harvest the trees. Kowen is also marvelously sited to be a dormitory for the Australian Defence Force headquarters that is to be built between Queanbeyan and Bungendore, if they get the development under way VERY soon. The wash-up of the election of 16 October 2004 will allow a government to plan, unhindered by too much politics. Peter Ellis 23:27, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Cyclone Tracy

Hey, good work on the article. Good info! - Ta bu shi da yu 05:15, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. When I was second-in-command of a Royal Australian Navy Patrol Boat, our radio operator was a 'survivor' of Cyclone Tracy. He told how the antennas at the Naval station were down, and he'd been sent out to help people after the cyclone and had worked until he dropped from lack of sleep. When the Navy ships arrived after several days sailing at high speed from Sydney, the Navy folk ashore were brought out to the ships, and he smuggled a bottle of 'booze' onboard in the small bag that was all the personal items he had recovered. He said that he slept for most of several days, assisted by the bottle. That's the kind of thing that can not go in an article, though. Peter Ellis 05:40, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

User:Diberri/Image tag request --David Iberri | Talk 19:55, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Also, Image:Fairey Gannet RAN 882.jpg and Image:Fairey Gannet AEW3 folded.jpg need to be tagged. --Carnildo 04:15, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Done x 3 Peter Ellis 12:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer.

talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

major snip of this entry, to save space... Peter Ellis 14:44, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Nice work on Cyclone Tracy :-)

I'll help with a copyedit. Where did you get the info from though? We need to add it to the reference section. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:24, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks to SEMAPHORE Issue 14 (December 2004), the occasionally issued newsletter of the Sea Power Centre - Australia (Royal Australian Navy), as now referenced in the Talk for Cyclone Tracy. I fiddled with the article somewhat to make it fit a section format, and provided some not-so-obvious linkages. I believe that this is 'fair use'. Peter Ellis 21:54, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Unverified images

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

Image:Laurie_oakes.jpg

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{PD-self}} if you wish to release your own work to the public domain, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. Peter O. (Talk, automation script) 21:13, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

medial geniculate nucleus

Hey Peter, thanks for pointing that out. Medial geniculate nucleus is indeed in need of creation; I'll start a stub, but I doubt I can contribute a great deal from memory. On the other line, I'm not sure who the good neuroscientists are here on Wikipedia :-) JFW | T@lk 08:42, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

U.S./Australia Parliamentary Friendship Group

It was one of a group of articles that were listed on cleanup as being necessary to move from US to U.S. namespace to agree with Wikipedia:Naming conventions. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 03:34, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Graham, thanks, but... I suppose I should correct that. I not trying to be smart, just to understand. I looked through Wikipedia:Naming conventions amd can not find which convention would apply when the organisational title explicitly contravenes a Wikipedia convention; and, I can see which Wikipedia convention applies to naming the US as U.S. as in this case, either. (However, what I did find was an example of US used where the convention appears to be to use U.S..) So, more advice, please. Peter Ellis 11:38, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sorry I pointed you in the wrong direction: Wikipedia:Manual of Style says: When referring to the United States, using "U.S." rather than "US" makes it easier to search for automatically. When referring to the United States in a long abbreviation (USA, USN, USAF), stops (periods) should not be used. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 17:45, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I Learned About (Burley / Burleigh) From That

I made some disambiguations today, only to find (for myself) that I done them in entirely the wrong page. Ouch. And, thanks to Francs2000 (aka Graham) | Talk who had been there before me, I was saved from a long period of embarrassment. So, I decided to confess.

The name of this section is an homage to the long-running series of articles in ´´Flying´ magazine, ¨I Learned About Flying From That¨, where pilots confess their stupid mistakes in order to help others ahead of a similar mistake.

So, dear Wikipedians, check EXACTLY which page you are about to disambiguate; again misquoting, like Santa check twice which page is going to be made naughty or instead made nice.

Peter Ellis 05:32, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Some wise bloke once said...

Tis better to err and to learn from it, than to do nothing and to learn nothing at all.

-- Graham ☺ | Talk 02:13, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

French Communes

Hi! I have given some comments at Talk:Communes of the Calvados département. I checked Communes of the Cantal département and noticed that you left some "dust" behind. I guess it would be helpful to preview your changes before saving. Anyway, no big big deal. Cheers. olivier 05:04, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

australia

what do you mean by "royal anthem"? i didnt think we had that. "god save the queen" is the national anthem of the united kingdom of great brittain and northern island. i have never heard of its use a a "royal anthem" for australia.

where do you claim to source this from? Xtra 11:28, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reference: NATIONAL SYMBOLS (http://www.aph.gov.au/library/handbook/40thparl/national%20symbols.pdf) PARLIAMENTARY HANDBOOK of the Commonwealth of Australia, 29th EDITION 2002, Australian Parliament House Library, third sentance: "Advance Australia Fair is used on all occasions other than those on which the royal anthem or the vice-regal salute is used." Under that, paragraph (d) of the proclamation by the Governor General of Australia dated 19 April 1984 (of Advance Australia Fair as the National Anthem) says: "that the National Anthem shall be used on all official and ceremonial occasions, other than occasions on which either the Royal Anthem or the Vice-Regal Salute is used;" Peter Ellis 22:34, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Continuity error in Lost's first episode

Hi! I noticed your edit to Lost (2004 television series): "A continuity error ended the first episode. See article on Continuity." I was wondering if you could add information to the article on what the error was. I'm curious to know what this error was and I'm sure others would find it interesting, too. Thanks! Carrp 16:35, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Okay. I was unsure which place to put it, under Continuity (where I put it), or under Lost (2004 television series) or both which seems un-Wiki. As it's topical I guess both is okay: Its debut in Australia was this week. Peter Ellis 22:16, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

you patronising message

where do you get off being so patronising. the thing i reverted was clearly POV without any evidence to support it, and by a vandalising anon, none the less. see [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Melbourne&diff=prev&oldid=12226747) and [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victoria_University_of_Technology&diff=prev&oldid=12206978). check your facts before you let your mouth run next time. Xtra 11:15, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) Xtra 06:30, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I'm sorry that you took my message as patronising. I am in raging agreement with you, and thought I'd said so emphatically, by saying, "It's a bit like the Do Re Me song: Revert, a note to follow "So?" There appears to be a bias in some of the matters that need reverting, such as your recent one on JH. It's like there is an amateur hour going on, with far-from-inventive changes that allow anyone to see the lack of subtlety. Peter Ellis 09:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)" (Retrieved from User_talk:Xtra) However, my attempt at humour must have been too dry (with the "So?" being the reader looking at the silly comment) to tell that, for which I apologise. The change I referred to was SO OBVIOUSLY SILLY that anyone could see it needed reverting. Which you rightly did. Is my point clear, now? Peter Ellis 01:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

i am sorry for misinterpreting that. i am a bit off my game at the moment. please accept my appologies. Xtra 06:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The vote

In a way I felt bad leaving that vote, but 14 edits to user talk pages is a bit low, LOL! Sorry, 15. Being out and about smelling the roses is a healthier, more human, thing than sitting around typing on talk pages, mind you. ;-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 07:03, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I need your advice. Do "minor" edits get counted in the statistics? In some ways, I can hope not. However, I know that quite a few of my comments have been left as "minor". Should I instead be un-checking the minor box to get the count climbing? For instance, should this reply be a minor, or not? Peter Ellis 01:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Minor comments do count, but your reply above is not a minor one. A minor edit is one that doesn't change the meaning of the text, doesn't delete, and doesn't add any text. Correcting punctuation or spelling would be a minor edit. But if you add words, then it's almost never minor, and it's best not to check the minor box if you do add words, because sometimes it can make people think you're trying to cheat (not you personally) by attempting to slip a substantial edit through without anyone checking on it. The best rule of thumb is: if in doubt, don't check as minor. ;-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 04:02, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. I think you have had enough experiences with other users. --Merovingian (t) (c) 14:06, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Okay... as I sort-of asked at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Peter_Ellis, what happens now? (Should I expect an email, or to be told here?) Peter Ellis 06:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The vote failed consensus at (10,8,0) or 56%. Consensus is minimum 75%, preferabley 80%+. You can try again in a month, if you like. Cheers, Cecropia | explains it all ® 07:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. My generalised question remains: How is the candidate informed, usually? I can not see anything, anywhere, about this last act in the drama; however, I'm happy to be told where it is. And, I am not telepathic as is obvious by my asking. Peter Ellis 07:58, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Adminship

Hey Peter, you got a respectable result in the end, and I'm pretty sure you'll get it when you reapply if you've mixed with people just a bit more. In the meantime, if there's anything I can do to help you on that score, I'd be happy to, so let me know. Best, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:10, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, ... I'm sorry to see your RFA failed. Had I seen that you were up before it was over I would have voted in support. I don't see any reason why our administrators must all be socialites. I appriciate your quite, get down and work, editing practices. Should you go up again, make sure you ping my talk page. :) --Gmaxwell 01:25, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you both for the +ve comments. As you'll see from my comments above, in the end I was more confused that educated by the process. Perhaps this is now turning around; but, no-one has yet "formally" advised me... unless it was deputised to Cecropia per the message at 07:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC). Or, did I miss something in the pages about how these things are decided and people advised? It's immaterial, for now. Perhaps, though, it reflects that I've gone to "the dark side" -- by working in an organisation with ISO 9000 accreditation where laid-down procedures are followed. :-) Peter Ellis 04:42, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh but Peter, this is a wiki; you've got to expect and, indeed, embrace a certain degree of chaos. ;-) The note from Cecropia was your official confirmation: he's a bureaucrat, which means he's one of the people who decides on promotions. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 06:27, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Well, knock me over with a feather! I looked at the Cecropia and I'd never know he was a Wikipedia:Bureaucrat. Perhaps a simple, "As the Wikipedia:Bureaucrat in this case, ...." And, guess what? The procedure that I longed to find IS laid down, at the bottom of the Bureaucrat list/page. However, in the interests of clarity, I think that it needs to be links and hence I'll do just that. :-) Peter Ellis 18:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I concur with the advice of SlimVirgin. The Wikipedia community is a lot more than the sum of its component members, but we aren't always the optimum of everyone's strengths, to say the least. The result isn't all that surprising, although IMO it is a bizarre decision. Jimbo himself said that being an admin should be no big deal. But we're a democracy, and as Heinlein said, Democracy is based on the principle that a million men are more likely to be right than one man. How's that again?

If you're still keen on it, why not start doing some housekeeping on VfD? Most people don't seem to realise that much of the admin of VfD can be done by non-admins. The only decision that needs an admin to action it is delete; If the decision goes any other way it can all be done by anyone, even an anon. This would beef up your edit count in the Wikipedia namespace, and bring you into contact with lots of new users who nobody seems to welcome (it seems many people find it more fun to list a newbie's first attempts on VfD than to talk to them about it first). I think you'd enjoy doing some of the welcoming, and that would beef up your edit count in the user talk namespace too. And there are lots of opportunities there to comment on talk pages, again this possibility seems underused to me, I guess it's more fun to comment where lots of people see it, and the fact that it's far better for Wikipedia if only the right people see it doesn't seem to be high on people's priorities. I think your participation would lift the tone of VfD, and there's always lots to do there. It might also lead you to decide you don't want to be an admin after all! Think about it. Andrewa 10:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

VfD vote

I have removed this vote (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/BidPay&diff=13477543&oldid=13328453), not sure how you did it but I think it's in the wrong place. Probably best if you reinsert it, I think it goes here. Andrewa 17:03, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Andrew, I think that I made the silly assumption that by clicking on the Edit link below where the comment was intended then I would append the comment to the field above that. Well, yes and... no! :-) Peter Ellis 01:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Just checking in

Hi Peter, I'm just wondering how you're doing and whether you're managing to negotiate your way around talk pages and the like for your next admin nomination. I thought it might help if I were sometimes to alert you to polls, or to pages where opinions are sought. If I do, don't feel you have to respond; feel free to ignore, and if you'd rather not be invited at all, please say. There's a vote going on at the moment to decide whether we should use BC/AD in dates or adopt a policy of using BCE/CE instead. If that interests you, it's at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/BCE-CE Debate; scroll down to see the vote (it's point 6.4 roughly). There's another proposal at Wikipedia:Conspiracy theory, regarding whether to stop allowing the term "conspiracy theory" to be used in titles. Some people argue that it's inherently POV; others say it can be a factual description. The vote is at Wikipedia talk:Conspiracy theory. If I come across any content disputes you might be interested in, I'll alert you to those too. Best, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 08:06, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Slim. Thanks for the concern, and I'll look over these matters. At the suggestion of another Admin, I now make it my business to look over Votes for deletion and I have chosen to look for certain keywords that interest me; then, I have a general look over the topics. Occasionally, there is something that screams for comment and I do. Mostly, I pass. I have also put in quite an effort to document a certain part of my city's social fabric -- the category Australian military memorials and cemeteries is almost all me at the moment, after I spent a few weeks on ANZAC Parade, Canberra and its memorials. I'm quite proud in my own way, but it's only a start and there'll be someone to improve it in time. In short, I'm not "bitter and twisted" over the adminship, and I'm not resting on my laurels. I am also a little unimpressed with the process, and said so on the Bureaucrat page with my suggestions as to how the process could be clarified for all and (speaking to their self interest) simplified for them. Life goes on. :-) Peter Ellis 13:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Vote about Government of Australia

Peter, you might be interested in a vote proposed by Adam Carr, in response to Skyring trying to insist that Australia is a republic. See details here Wikipedia:Village_pump (policy)#Vote on contents of Government of Australia. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 05:09, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

And the vote itself is here Talk:Government of Australia#Vote on contents of Government of Australia. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 05:17, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Planet Shakers edits

Hi Peter... Thanks for your effort with Wikipedia, and the Planet Shakers article, however I'm not sure that your changes really enhanced the quality of the article. Perhaps you could reply to Talk:Planet_Shakers and explain some of your reasoning. — SimonEast 05:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Simon, see Talk:Planet_Shakers. Peter Ellis 06:43, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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