User talk:PaulinSaudi
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(Gee Nobody is talking to me any more. I think I will go pout.)
I thought you might like to know that someone resurrected the article on Operation Mockingbird, although not without the assistance of a lot of obscure sources, including those by conspiracy theorists Alex Constantine and Steve Kangas. Although I haven't read many of them and therefore can't ascertain their reliability, I read an article in the Columbia Journalism Review that mentions the book "Katharine the Great" and seems to call into question a lot of its content. I pasted the relevant section below.
"Katharine the Great: Katharine Graham and The Washington Post by Deborah Davis, published by Harcourt Brace Jovanovich in 1979. Davis alleged that Washington Post editor Benjamin Bradlee had collaborated with the Central Intelligence Agency and that Richard Ober, a CIA official, had acted as Deep Throat. Davis had undeniably turned up some valuable new information about her subject. But some reviewers found the book poorly documented, and the absence of end notes certainly did not help Davis's credibility. After publication, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich received a letter from Bradlee pointing out thirty-nine alleged inaccuracies. Davis conceded some mistakes, while downplaying their significance to the overall theme. Subjects of books complain about inaccuracies all the time, of course such complaints must be treated skeptically -- because of the subjects' self-interest -- and yet seriously. This time, the publisher decided that Bradlee's list contained enough validity to call the whole project into question. Harcourt Brace Jovanovich disavowed the book and shredded the remaining copies. It rose from the ashes eight years later, when National Press Inc. published what was billed as a "second edition." Nowhere did Davis or the publisher reveal what had happened to the first edition."
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Templates
Heya, in case you missed it: You don't need to use the msg: prefix for templates anymore, just {{delete}} will do. Actually, these days {{del}} and {{d}} work too, thanks to the magic of redirects. --W(t) 17:49, 2005 May 26 (UTC)
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Careful... I've reported the anon's continued reversion of Vandalists Rule on WP:AN3. Alphax τεχ 17:53, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Frank Gardner
That's interesting isn't it? Terror victims always tend to say good things about terrorists after their experience (if they get to live after it, that is). For example, Giuliana Sgrena thanked her captors in a video (http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/2042.cfm), and on the other hand, accused the American forces of deliberately firing at her vehicle. (http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/03/1725147.php) I claim (with no professional knowledge in psychology) that the shock continues afterwards that they believe terrorists can still hurt them.
Regarding the Insurgency in Saudi Arabia page, others have already voted not to move it, and an administrator removed the move template. I'm sure he didn't even read the article, just the move request. -- Eagleamn 20:34, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
Candy Bar Table
I admire your energy. Now, I just have to make myself learn how to use it (anything new always seems more complicated than it really is). Some peanut M&M's might help me along. Thanks. --Mothperson 16:43, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
As I expected, that table is very easy to use. So I've put some companies and descriptions in, but I'm thinking if I were more frugal with words, the table wouldn't be ballooning up. I started putting the original companies in only to show how Hershey and the other giants have devoured all these small companies, but where more interesting notes are available, they can be tossed.
I also started working on the article. Feel free to rewrite anything. I wanted to get some explanation of the origins in there. The discussion of sugar chemistry did not seem appropriate here (although it should be somewhere in the general confectionery category), so I removed it.
When I went to that site you mentioned, I nearly fell off my chair seeing Hazelnut Snickers in Australia. It isn't fair! If you haven't read Candy Freak by Steve Almond, you should.
I don't have the Oxford book, but I have Larousse and a fairly good general collection of food books. For this particular project, I'm lucky enough to have bought, about 20 years ago, one of Ray Broekel's candy bar books. Many many extinct candy bars in it. I warned you.
My turn to go to bed. You'll probably have doubled the size of the page, and filled in all the blanks by the time I get up. Mothperson 01:49, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Weirdness
For your entertainment, google "tortina mini candy" or whatever that Italian thing is with "mini" in it, but be sure to put in candy or candy bar for the search. When you get the first page of results, go a few lines down until you see the Italian candy name, and a site with, I think, an "mx" in its address. I was doing this trying to find out what the Italian candy bar was, when I came across this site, and no, I have not a clue why they are doing this. It is a mystery. --Mothperson 03:25, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I didn't describe that very well, did I? Here you go. the mystery (http://www.x-moto.net/articles/Candy_bar)
- It's always a shock to go looking, in good faith, for information about something and then find yourself suddenly faced with this kind of result. I have some naming issues I'd like your opinion on, re the big mfrs., but I will put the questions on the candy bar talk page. Later. After some caffeine. --Mothperson 12:48, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
having problems remembering how to link. Mothperson 12:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
argh. where's that caffeine?
What I meant was - why on earth does a site devoted to motorcycle parts have a candy bar page? Are the Hell's Angels closet candy bar freaks? I'm very curious. My only annoyance came from the fact I thought I'd finally found a site that would explain the Torino Mini and the Violet Crumble center to me. Like, so not, damn it! Apple wine - that reminds me - the apple Abba Zaba sounds really good. I need to find one. It would probably go well with apple wine. --Mothperson 15:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Operations Dove and Span
Ah, that makes sense. I've heard of the 'green book' series, I think via this page [1] (http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/wwii/7-4/7-4_cont.htm) which has part of one of the volumes (I assume there are dozens). It must be in one of the books on this page [2] (http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/catalog/WWII-Pubs.htm), probably this one:
"RIVIERA TO THE RHINE, by Jeffrey J. Clarke and Robert Ross Smith. (1993; 605 pp., table, maps, illustrations, bibliographical note, index). CMH Pub 7-10, cloth, GPO S/N 008-029-00213-2; CMH Pub 7-10-1, paper, GPO S/N 008-029-00229-9. A history of combat operations by Sixth Army Group from its landing in southern France to its crossing of the Rhine."
That sounds reasonable. If you're sure that it was that book, you could put a "References" section at the bottom of the pages marked "References", and cite it. It seems to be on sale here, [3] (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/9993160334/102-8880684-6452155?v=glance) although I imagine it being a dull read. Regarding operations in general, I remember reading several interesting articles around the time of "Operation Infinite Justice" and the eventual Operation Enduring Freedom; but I can't remember any details! I think the names were picked randomly from a pre-prepared list, and the practice of naming the operation after a relevant topic is quite new (and in Britain, the names are utterly strange; 'Operation Corporate' for the Falklands crisis and 'Operation Granby' and 'Telic' - a real word, apparently - for the Iraq campaigns).-Ashley Pomeroy 09:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Freemason
How does one become a Mason anyway. There is one up my block but I see no one go inside it. It is like a haunted house.
Tell me who and where you are and I can hook you up. Paul, in Saudi 13:07, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)