User talk:JerryFriedman

He's a nice masked man. A friend and I got into e-conversation with him when I was at college and he was (to us) surprisingly happy to chat with a couple of students from the UK. Cheers for the confirmation. I really ought to re-join the mailing list (it's only been about a decade :-): what's the current gossip about the next book? --Phil | Talk 09:11, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)

Robert B. Parker

The potential concern is not over the informational content but over the precise form it takes. Which is why it's often kosher to summarize material you find on the web but not to copy and paste. ::shrug:: But usually these things don't became major issues anyway. -- कुक्कुरोवाच|Talk‽ 03:41, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Century plant vs. Aloe

It's quite possible this photo to be a century plant. My father took this photo 25 years ago, obviously I don't remember how the plant looked like before this "flower" grew. And I am absolutely not a botanist. Yann 10:34, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

FYI this photo was taken in my grand mother's garden. Someone on fr: confirmed that it's not an aloe. He said that the photo should be fr:Agave_américaine which effectively looks like the plants I can see in her garden. The photo at Century plant is different. So feel free to move it where it belongs. Yann 08:30, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Turkey Vulture

I don't remember putting this image on, but from the page history iy must have been me (image has no history). I don't know now if it's a TV or not - please change if you have another pic. jimfbleak 04:37, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Out of the Silent Planet

I made a comment on this articles talk page about whether Malacandra is a "second chance" garden of Eden. Ellsworth 23:02, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Merlin

Hi, a nice comment on the talk page for this species - falcons are always exciting. We has a single Feral Pigeon that comes to our garden for seeds, and yesterday I noticed it looking skywards - at first glance I saw only House Martins, but then I picked up the Hobby that the pigeon had seen -another super bird, like a giant swift. jimfbleak 05:25, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

White-throated Hawk

I liked the new article, and I think we've sorted out the range of this and its cousin. jimfbleak 05:58, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

User:Belizian

Thanks Jerry, that could be timely. I've done all the articles now for List of Cyprus birds, and nearly finished list of French birds, so I thought I might do a few neotrops in preparation for next spring's holiday in T & T. jimfbleak

You read me like a book. We thought we would do Trinidad and Tobago to get to grips with all those new passerine families -antwrens, antshrikes, ant birds etc - before taking the plunge maybe to Ecuador in a feww years' time. Jim

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

Keres Languages

Jerry,

Have at it; I have no problem with your moving the Keres languages out of Kiowa-Tanoan languages. I recalled that I moved the whole lot as I found them in another article, but had also noticed that the Ethnologue classified them as a separate family, which is why I included that caveat in the article. I think the Ethnologue is as reliable source as any for moving the Keres languages to their own family; if anyone comes along with a more compelling reference authority, they can be moved back.

Best,

Tom Radulovich 05:59, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Scrub jay

Hi Jerry,

"Hi. I noticed that you changed back most of my edits to Scrub jay. To start with the name, I put in the hyphens because that's the AOU (http://www.aou.org/checklist/index.php3#corv)'s usage. Were you following some better authority?"

The Wiki birds project uses the Lynx Handbook of the Birds of the World list, so as to get uniform international coverage; the AOU is very much out on a limb in using the peculiar grammatic form of hyphens followed by capitals ("-J" in this case), no other bird listing group does so. Generally, either form 'Scrub Jay' or 'Scrub-jay' would be regarded as acceptable, but not 'Scrub-Jay'.

"I changed the " - " to "—" because that's Wikipedia policy (see the last bullet here). I also changed hyphens between numbers to en dashes for reasons given at the same page."

These things are an absolute pain in the @$$ when editing pages (as the codes for them are very 'brittle', the ampersand at the start of the code sticks to the previous word, and the semi-colon at the end sticks to the next word, thus disintegrating and leaving orphans behind unless edited very carefully); if you must use them, please put a space either side of them to avoid this problem.

"I changed the range in the first paragraph to include Central America instead of just Mexico because the article says the range of the Unicolored Jay extends to Nicaragua. There seems to be some disagreement about the range of this species—[5] (http://www.earthlife.net/birds/corvid-ch.html) says "Mexico and Honduras" while [6] (http://www.natureserve.org/infonatura/speciesIndex/Family_Corvidae_100196_1.htm) says "Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, El Salvador". Maybe somebody who knows more than I do needs to straighten this out, but in any case, it looks like it's not just Mexico. (At [7] (http://www.travelwithmea.com/itin_wHonduras.htm) it's described as "commonly sighted" on their tours in western Honduras.)"

Agreed, it should include western Central America; I'll add it.

"I changed a sentence of the form "...the most commonly heard call is X, or Y". There can be only one most commonly heard call. What was the problem with my version "the most commonly heard calls are X and Y"? If necessary, it can be changed to something "the most commonly heard call is X and the next most common is Y" or "Common calls include X and Y; for each species, one or the other of these is the most commonly heard" or whatever would be correct."

Agreed; I guess the form "Common calls include X and Y" would be best.

"I'd like to make these changes, but I think we should settle it so there won't be a revert war. There's another sentence that we can argue about later. —JerryFriedman 18:59, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)"

Thanks! - MPF 19:28, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi Jerry - not quite so simple, as A. coerulescens (the taxon in the genus first described) is actually Florida Scrub Jay (not surprising, as it was discovered before the West was even explored at all!); Western Scrub Jay is A. californica. I'm in the middle of creating a page for Western Hemlock at the moment, but will hava a think about it when that's done in half an hour or so, and get back to you - MPF 22:10, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

PS my computer sometimes logs me out too without telling me, can be very annoying! MPF 22:10, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Grrr . . . why does wikipedia crash so often!! Let me know if my addition is OK in clarifying, or expand it more if you like. I've also started a short stub for Unicolored Jay - MPF 02:01, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Falco femoralis picture

Jerry, I added the picture while browsing through all wikicommons pictures of birds, mainly for the dutch wikipedia. On this particular Image:Hypotriorchis femoralis.jpg in commons:Falcon the title for this pictue is Falco femoralis (Aplomado Falcon). The full description of the image reads:

Hypotriorchis femoralis. From: Reports of Explorations and Surveys.... Volume X. 1859 of the U. S. Pacific railroad Explorations and Surveys 38th, 39th, 41st Parallels. Copied from NOAA Photo Library (http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/library/).

That is the reason why I added this picture. Feel free to remove this picture from Aplomado Falcon and/or comment commons:Falcon. HenkvD 19:19, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

John Sz - Aplomado in Flight

Hi Jerry, Thanks for your copyright diligence. I've mailed the photographer for the permission. We'll see if we get it.

Desde Wikipedia en español

Hola! si quieres, me ofrezco para revisar los artículos al español, sólo tenés que avisarme en mi página de usuario de Wikipedia en español. Soy Dianai Saludos! (aquí no firmo porque no tengo cuenta en inglés y sólo sería unos numeritos)

Hola, Jerry

Soy un visitante de la Wikipedia en español. Te felicito por tu excelente nivel en este idioma, aunque he detectado alguna deficiencia en tu presentación que no he querido corregir en el original, pero que te señalo a continuación por si quieres hacerlo tú mismo:

"¡Hola! Nací en 1961 y soy profe de física y de matemáticas y estudiante de español (así denominamos este idioma aquí en Nuevo México). Escribo bastante en el Wikipedia inglés, pero espero VISITAROS AQUÍ [o VISITAR ÉSTE] de vez en cuando para traducir algo. Te agradezco mucho las correcciones en mis artículos, y aun más si me das algún consejo para mejorar mi dominio del idioma. Me puedes DEJAR un mensaje en mi página de discusión, pero es probable que lo VEA más pronto [mejor: ANTES] en mi página en inglés, donde son bienvenidos los mensajes en español. O mándame un correo a mailto:jerry_friedman@yahoo.com, que ya la conocen los "espamadores".

También me puedes pedir alguna traducción, aunque no garantizo nada. En inglés he ESCRITO más sobre la física, ~~las~~ matematicas, la literatura en inglés, especialmente la ciencia ficción, la botánica y la zoología, sobre todo DE aves. Estoy TRABAJANDO un poco en el Proyecto de traducción de artículos destacados.

Artículos traducidos (y corregidos por otr@s): cerezo, Cathartidae, aura común, unos párrafos de Isaac Asimov."

Espero que te sea útil. Saludos.

Miguel

Big Bang

Hi Jerry. You've been doing a great job editing the big bang article. I think between me and User:Joshuaschroeder, it was starting to become riddled with jargon. --Joke137 19:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Plains Wanderer

Good luck in Mexico, let us know how you get on; we want to do another neotropic, but haven't decided where yet.

Plains Wanderer used to be considered to be related to the buttonquail, and is listed in Pheasants, Partridges and Grouse of the World, which says that DNA analysis shows it is really a wader. Shorebirds, an older book, does not include this species, but obviouly it should be moved, which I've done, thanks jimfbleak 16:35, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Big Bang as creation myth

Thanks for providing an explanation for that inclusion. However, upon reading the bit more carefully I have to conclude the current version is NPOV with respect to the opinions of philosophers commenting on the work of those who claim the Big Bang as proof of their own brand of creation story (ala William Lane Craig for example). It is important we mention that this is a common criticism of first cause and the like.

What seems to be to be off-subject is the statement that the Big Bang itself can be labeled a creation myth. Obviously, those who reject the Big Bang outright in Non-standard cosmology, for example, might be inclined to make such a characterization, but this isn't for philosophical reasons but rather for (pseudo)scientific reasons. We discuss them elsewhere in the article and there is no reason to point out their beliefs in this section which is solely about integrating the Big Bang with philosophies and religions. We point out that there are those that reject such an endeavor from religious standpoints (by means of rejecting the Big Bang theory altogether) and that there are those that reject it from non-religious standpoints, but to reject the Big Bang itself is an entirely different matter from what the section is trying to address.

Joshuaschroeder 15:25, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

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