User talk:FvdP

Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need any questions answered about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Cheers! --maveric149

Didn't mean to tread on your toes; I tought "Euro Disney" was the "official" name for the place, and hence it would be a more appropriate title for the entry here. The typoes were due to my own hasty attempt to move it over. 'Nuff said, my apologies. Modemac

Thanks to you and others for helping clean up after today's vandalism. --Ed Poor

see we can all get along! Lir 18:17 Oct 29, 2002 (UTC) yay!

Yes, sorry for being hasty (i'm afraid it will happen again, hopefully less). The fact is that I don't know where such notices should go. Apart that they shouldn't be in "vandalism"... BTW, I noticed the lag too. It's not just a question of night/day or number of visitors. Some queries are complex (like the one that searches for spelling errors) and if several people do complex queries simultaneously, the server may overload. Of course this is more likely to happen if there are many visitors. FvdP 18:26 Oct 29, 2002 (UTC)

20021113 - Submitted by [Jmallios] in response to FvdP's question of the use of Omega notation on the [Bubble Sort] page: I prefer the use of Omega notation over Theta when talking about the best case scenario (i.e. lower bound) of a function or algorithm. By using Omega(n) instead of Theta(n) as the complexity of sorting an already-sorted list (which is the best possible case for a list with more than 0 elements), the reader can infer that the algorithm will perform absolutely no less efficiently than (n). Theta only implies that there is an upper AND lower bound, but does not necessarily define either. Therefore, Theta is best used in the "average" case. Notice I thought Theta was appropriate when defining the general performance of Bubble Sort. Thanks, Jason Mallios, Austin, Texas.

Yes, I may have been too harsh...I shall excuse myself. But, if I had not been watching that page, the info would have disappeared. Just because he was *careless*. I often do some copy paste from one page to another and move things around. It happens (quite often all considered) I do some mistake, which is why I try to always have a look on a page I just saved. I spent some time this morning looking around checking for other deletions. I don't like loosing my time and seeing some of the things I have been doing disappear just because otherwise valuable contributors are careless.
And I also agree the % should be moved to another page about 2002 elections where they would fit better. I just quickly updated elections results while the info was easily available a couple of month ago. user:anthere

Gasp, I had the feeling Opera use was ok on the english one...Was it related to some greek characters ??? If so, I must be careful...

The french wiki just had a nice porn picture instead of the main page. Very cute. Fortunately I just dropped very soon after. I am worried that sometimes it is all alone for hours. If someone one day decide to really vandalize it during a quiet time (say during the french night time when noone is there for a good couple of hours), it is gonna be a hell of a work to put everything back. User:anthere

Just a technical query... Your last edit to Lir's User page doesn't seem to show up in the page's history. It this just a problem at my end, or a bug in the system, or is it not actually supposed to show up? It's confusing me! -- Oliver Pereira 16:35 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)

It show up in my browser. To my knowledge, all modifications always appear in the history list. If the problem persists on your side, you should ask someone more knowledgeable than me... And, by the way, welcome to the Wikipedia ! FvdP 17:10 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)

Okay. At first I thought it was a caching thing, but I've reloaded the page properly, and the change still doesn't show up! It only seems to be that page - possibly something to do with its being protected...? Oh well, I'm not that bothered really, as long as it doesn't start happening on other pages. If it does, I'll ask someone... And thanks for the welcome. :) -- Oliver Pereira 18:40 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, I'd seen Jimbo's edit, but then looked back at my watchlist (without refreshing it!) and it said that you'd made the last edit, so I started thinking you'd made one after Jimbo - what a ridiculous thing to think! Apologies for cluttering up your Talk page with my confusions... -- Oliver Pereira 18:50 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)

No problem ! --FvdP 14:48 Nov 26, 2002 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me ! I would not have guess I had another head !!! (I do not monitor recent changes much...). Youpi, I have 4 user pages now ! Actually I must confess I was thinking of setting me up a user:Anthere on the fr:wiki (plus redirect), for I often mistakenly type the wrong reference to sign...user:anthere LOL

Re: your comment about km². Thanks for telling me. I'll change it in km² tomorrow or the day after that. I don't have the time now. Dhum Dhum 19:18 Dec 4, 2002 (UTC)

Hi, see my comment in Talk:Sikhism. --Dante Alighieri 01:03 Dec 5, 2002 (UTC)

Perhaps I should have moved the SCA link when I put the redirect in. I don't mind the edit, but I thought the Ettiquite was not to mess with people's User page. In this case, no harm, no foul. ;->

Seems like we have some common interests. I'll have to keep an eye on your edits.... -- Jeff 22:35 Jan 2, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest ! But I'm afraid I have not contributed that much significative content here till now.

I agree with you on user's pages netiquette. I prefer not to touch them and do touch them only with great caution, not changing any content. (Even spelling corrections I avoid.) But once in a while I cross the border... -- FvdP

You know, FvdP, I like you. You're a great guy. So, if you'll tolerate my horrid high school French... I'll try to talk to you in it. :) I could use some help there anyway. The Annie that is a Cat

Don’t remove text on the arbitrary basis of the information being covered somewhere else. If the text is valid in the article, then leave it alone.

If you don't understand how your copying the same text everywhere is annoying, you're in great danger of being eventually banned. Of course there are other annoyings things to, like your propension to reverse. FvdP 02:41 Jan 3, 2003 (UTC)

I see 172 feels free to make deletions from your User page. -- Zoe

I saw it too. I don't care, all I wanted is to have this list of links put beyond the danger of disparition by account erasure. It's now safe in my history list.

I MAY BE UNPOPULAR, BUT A MORON SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT YOUR DELETING MY CONTRIBUTIONS PERTAINING TO CONGO BECAUSE YOU’RE FROM BELGIUM!

172

I don't think you understand why I deleted this text. See Leopold's II talk page. See how Danny agreed with me. Is Danny a Balgian nationalist ? Surely not ! FvdP

I did not use the phrase "regime of rape and murder" either. That must've been an earlier writer.

Indeed, it was an earlier writer. FvdP

172, Play nice, you don't need to blast anyone getting in your way. Be more friendly. User:Kt2

You have a great patience with 172 you might be elligible for Wikipedia saithood.

I removed the link because it was not displaying the DC part for some reason that I could not understand since when I looked at in in edit it seemed right. So, I took it off knowing that someone else would put it back and make it display correctly. Indeed you did that and I do not see any differnce in what you have and what I originally had, but it is showing correctly so that is the important part. --Qaz

Wow, strange ! Ah but I understand. I had put Washington first then quickly corrected to Washington, DC. You probably saw the display with Washington and got the revised Washington, DC in the edit window. No need for a ghost in the machine to explain that effect... --FvdP

The discussion about the naming of the articles on bilingual belgian municipalities has moved to talk:Brussels (and might move again in the future...)

You used "chirurgy" when you diminished my spoiler entry on The_Matrix_Reloaded. What does this word mean? BF

An embarassing mistake of mine ;-) now corrected in the article (but you may want to correct that correction). I was too optimistic in transposing french words into english. (And sorry for answering/correcting late, I have been on holidays.) --FvdP 17:28 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Hi - re the IP user you asked to stop SHOUTING :-) I'm afraid it is a forlorn hope. This individual has been shouting since the day they came on. They also have a unique edit style, which is to ignore everyone else's work and revert specified pages back to their old version, a version that breaks all the guidelines in terms of layout, structure, spelling, NPOV, etc. I presumed at the start that this individual just didn't know what they were doing, and spent weeks fruitlessly pointing out to be careful not to break links, telling them how to do them correctly, explaining NPOV again and again, etc. On Eamon de Valera for two months under a series of identities and plenty of shouting this user has systematically been POVing the article and deliberately breaking links; turning [[Sinead de Valera|Sinead Bean de Valera]] into [[Sinead Bean de Valera]], (when specifically told that the latter links to nothing!) turning [[Cathal Brugha]] into [[Cathal Brugha, born Charles Burgess]] etc. Made up quotes are added in, along with some POV stuff that is so wrong it is funny.

After weeks of thinking this was just someone who didn't realise how to do things and having spent time patiently telling them over and over and over again about how to use links, spellings, NPOV I came to the conclusion that this user is simply going to that page to vandalise it, each time reverting to an old version, their old version with all the broken links, in the process wiping out weeks of work by everyone else every time. Having warned them that continuing to do this would be interpreted as vandalism and they would be blocked, they have continued to do so. So tonight I blocked them.

They have done edits elsewhere. I don't know anything about the accuracy of the edits, but if Eamon de Valera is any clue, every word they write needs to be double-checked. And every quote proven to exist. But they will be back under a new identity, with more SHOUTING, attacks on people and breaking links and reverting articles. The one good thing about their revertions on de Valera is that they always break the same links, so no matter what identity they use, it is immediately obvious who they are. Oh the joys of wiki. :-( FearÉIREANN 02:23 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Bonsoir,

je met un petit mot ici plutot que sur fr, pour ne pas jeter aussi de l huile sur le feu. Je te remercie de ton effort vis a vis de P. Vraiment. Anthère 00:29, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Avec un peu de chance, certaines personnes y apprendront qlq chose :-) Je t ai mis un message sur meta. C est pour d besoins de pub :-) ant

Méta-message reçu. Bonne nuit à toi aussi (enfin, "nuit", ce qu'il en reste ;-) F.--FvdP

217.226.214.120: added spurious links in german to [Jehovah witnesses](?) and bible on several Wikepedias. For a list of links to his contributions see w:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:FvdP. --FvdP 22:14, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I wanted to say thanks again for fixing the haceks in the Sechter article I wrote. Also, I want to thank you for an idea I got from your user page. I saw that you have a link to recent changes in mathematics, so I decided to add a link to recent changes in classical music to my user page. -- Del_arte

Merci pour ton encouragement. Blaisemarion 17:00, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I meant that the IP blocks were owned by companies from those countries. First of all, they are all European. Second of all, spammers and people who have such dynamic ip adresses don't usually own American or British (etc.) IP adresses, they are usually minor (no offense) European countries. Besides, don't Sweeden and Dutch have languages from the same branch of the language tree? Third of all, even though I'm hailing from the US, I'm Russian, thank you very much! Ilyanep 23:41, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Well, following your point. Any person can find a way to use any IP, just has to hack into it. I could be German for all anyone knows. But...aww...whatever. It doesn't matter, it is obvious that they are probably the same. I'm just nicely going to count to ten (...) then stop this...Sorry if I caused you any Emotional Distress. Ilyanep 23:56, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Dunno, Requires a larger amount of knowledge on IP's than I have. Ilyanep 01:05, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Are you familiar with Belgian French and Walloon language? Those linguism websites I know of have no entry at all for a seperate Walloon language, and many of the unique changes to Walloon are in those sites attributed to the Belgian French dialect. Which is why I initially attempted to merge the articles: within the scientific community the consensus seems to be Walloon and Belgian French are one and the same. I would really appreciate someone with more knowledge making a statement on this! — Jor (Talk) 20:31, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

(Belgian) French is my mother tongue but I don't know much about walloon. Yet for what I know they are (close but) significantly different languages. I'm not even sure you can call "B French" a dialect of "French" because the differences are so few, and mostly limited to a small part of the vocabulary.

As an example, here is the first sentence of the wikipedia in walloon [1] (http://wikipedia.walon.org/) and its translation in french (if I understood it correctly !):

Walloon: 'Çouchal est ene prumire saye d' ene eciclopedeye Wikipedia e walon'
French & Belgian french: 'Ceci est un premier essai d'une encyclopédie Wikipedia en Wallon'

As you see, on such a sentence french = belgian french. (Except for the "W"'s which are pronounced differently.)

--FvdP 18:18, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

And that sentence was rather easy for me to understand: I'm at lost with this next one though: Vos ploz bén seur sicrire so ttafwait; mins nos sayrans motoit di mete do contnou k' a-st a vey avou l' Walonreye ou l' walon. --FvdP

Thanks for the reply. Actually the fact that Walloon has its own Wikipedia is probably evidence enough it is not a French dialect! — Jor (Talk) 18:22, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

et dans tous les cas, merci pour les notes :-) ant

Tu parles de sagesse FvdP. Mais...au cas ou tu ne l'ais pas remarqué, je suis toujours listée pour sysop ayant fait des abus de pouvoir. Et puisque personne ne me retire de cette liste (essentiellement en vertue de "don't feed the troll", il faudra bien que je le fasse moi meme :-) Plus...le comportement de Stuart est tel que nous devons lui signifier notre mécontemment. Il y a un moment ou il faut en effet choisir entre restaurer la paix et obtenir des efforts de celui qui perturbe. Je comprend tes mots d'apaisement, mais dans la situation, je ne perçois "apaiser la situation" que comme "baisser la culotte devant Stuart et lui dire qu'il peut abuser autant qu'il veut, c'est ok avec nous tous". Et ca, j'ai du mal. Beaucoup de mal. Alors il y a trois choix 1) lui pardonner tout et lui signifier qu'il peut continuer 2) par le biais d'une médiation, reconnaitre mes erreurs et lui demander des efforts 3) hors médiation, sanction. Je trouve que la deuxième option n'est pas si déraisonnable que cela :-) FirmLittleFluffyThing 19:51, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Je suis assez d'accord avec toi. (Si ce n'est que "lui pardonner tout" et "lui signifier qu'il peut continuer" sont des choses distinctes. Disons "lui signifier qu'il ferait bien de mettre un bémol" à certains comportements. Et pour les sanctions.... j'ai peur de l'escalade comme avec PP.... il faut de la diplomacie.) (Je me sens - hélàs? - moins volontaire pour placer des exigences que pour tenter l'apaisement ! (unilatéral?))

j'ai essayé d'écrire ma liste dans ce sens. Si tu as des commentaires, n'hesite pas, ....mais plutot ici :-(

Bon, la dispute sur fr: semble s'être calmée pour le moment ? --FvdP 18:55, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

SL a indiqué sur fr qu'il était un peu débordé ces temps ci (donc absent) Quelqu'un a cependant indiqué (rumeur) qu'il aurait dit dans un mail privé avoir décidé de quitter wikipedia. Je ne sais donc pas bien ce qu'il se passe.... FirmLittleFluffyThing

Contents

1 Raelism

2 University redirect

3 University of Leuven

8 NPOV, Flemish Interest and so on

9 IP Hacking ...

10 Flemish Interest

Raelism

Hello. Regarding your comment on my discussion page on the Raelians. I looked back at the edit, and I actually thought I was reverting to remove that statement. Apparently, I was confused and made a mistake; had I realized I was putting it back I would not have reverted. I don't believe Elohim tried to kill Stalin. Sorry, It was my mistake. --DanielCD 18:46, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

University redirect

Let me know what you need done, and I will do it! Mark Richards 21:33, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

University of Leuven

Hello, I still get confused by Leuven, Leiden, and all the Dutch and French speaking Belgians who know more about the case than I do. I just thought, that the title of the university should definitely be in English and something like "Catholic University of XYZ". The moving mistake really was only an error and not on purpose. Thanx, Sky 12:02, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Brussels, etc...

Thank you so much for your reply to the "boring, sad and arrogant" sort of fulmination in Talk:Brussels. I can only concur. I am really getting tired of replying to Rudy's POV edits. Rudy's last POV edit is in Municipalities with linguistic facilities article [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Municipalities_with_linguistic_facilities&diff=6193954&oldid=6184527). Just take a look, if you have time. Bye for now --Edcolins 21:30, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

Jirate

Sorry I must have missed the message. As you may have guessed I don't write french only read it. I created the account in trying to understand how the multi-lingua wiki's are linked. I've come to the conclusion it is badly.--Jirate 21:44, 2004 Nov 5 (UTC)

OK. But actually it looks like you failed to create the account... --FvdP 22:40, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

two weeks vacation

à 10h59 ce matin, cela fera pile deux semaines que je suis bloqué en écriture sur le wiki français ; je te remercie d'avoir déjà tenté de me débloquer ; j'ai muri des projets et ma réintégration devrait se passer sans problème ; en effet, j'ai été suffisamment échaudé à propos des suppressions... je laisserai à d'autres le risque de monter en première ligne prendre les retours de bâton ;-))) 82.224.88.52 07:03, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Il te reste encore 2 jours de blocage (cf [3] (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist), "expire le 9 jan 2005 à 21:42" : c'est ce dimanche -- je dois avoir une certaine responsabilité indirecte dans ce délai supplémentaire :-/ ). Fais attention que ce ne sont pas seulement tes demandes de suppression de page qui ont énervé... --FvdP 19:12, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

merci pour l'info car sans doute seul un admin possède le renseignement de la date d'expiration d'un blocage (essaye de te brancher sans t'identifier tu verras) ; sinon, en l'absence pour l'instant de forks comme sur le wiki espagnol, je n'ai pas d'autre choix que de continuer à intervenir sur le wiki français ; j'y ferai le service minimum : ne plus m'investir tous azimuts comme avant le vendredi 24/12 à 10h59 où j'étais dans le top cinq des IP ayant le + écrit ; en revanche, je me contenterai de petits projets ainsi que de la maintenance de ce que j'ai déjà écrit ; merci encore pour l'avertissement 82.224.88.52 20:30, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Apparemment, le lien [Special:Ipblocklist (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist)] fonctionne même sans être identifié... ou est-ce juste pour moi ? --FvdP 20:52, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Je dois être bigleux ou quoi ??? en tout cas, voilà que je vois fr:Special:Ipblocklist comme toi les dates d'expiration !!! en revanche, et c'est quand même la seule chose que doivent lire 90% des bloqués, cette date de fin de blocage n'apparait jamais lorsque l'on cherche à éditer un texte, y compris vers les pages de discussion des administrateurs fr ; j'en reproduis le texte intégral ici 82.224.88.52 21:52, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Votre compte utilisateur ou votre adresse IP ont été bloqués par Aurevilly pour la raison suivante : Blocage à nouveau, FvdP ne peux changer tout seul les règles actuelles

Vous pouvez contacter Aurevilly ou un des autres administrateurs pour en discuter.

Revenir à la page Accueil.

Je continue à subir le même problème des blocages à rallonge ; à chaque fois sans être intervenu pendant la brêve période de déblocage ; en décembre/janvier, ce fut trois quatre jours de + : cette fois, une semaine... sans doute ai-je eu tort ;-))) d'intituler double peine le dernier paragraphe que j'avais créé dans vandalisme en cours ??? 82.224.88.52 22:41, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

18 mar 2005 à 11:18 (expire le 2 avr 2005 à 11:18): Yann a bloqué 82.224.88.52 (contribs) (débloquer par erreur)

Je ne sais pas si tu réalises combien tes façons de faire peuvent être ennuyeuses, voire vexantes pour les autres utilisateurs, en particulier ceux que tu attaques ? (Note: ça fait un certain temps que je n'ai plus suivi l'affaire, comme tu peux t'en douter d'après la liste de mes contributions récentes sur Wikipédia FR...) (Et tu n'es pas intervenu du tout pendant la période de déblocage ? Mon petit doigt*** en doute... ou alors effectivement qqch débloque sur FR ;-) )

Merci pour tes remarques qui me donnent une piste pour imaginer que si je suis si souvent (sixième fois en cours) bloqué c'est d'abord pour ce que l'on imagine que je fais par ailleurs - il te dit quoi de précis ton petit doigt*** ??? - et non pour ce que je fais sous mon IP 82... Tu penses bien que je suis de + en + échaudé pour reprendre une activité wiképédienne suivie tant que je n'ai pas compris ce qui peut m'éviter d'être bloqué une septième fois. Merci encore. Jacques.

Sur les six fois ton petit doigt*** a effectivement subodoré que j'ai contribué. Mais une seule et unique fois hors de mon foutu ordi qui affiche désespérément la même adresse IP fixe. J'étais chez un copain qui, lui, a la chance de disposer d'adresses dynamiques qu'il est capable de varier de nombreuses fois par jour. Je n'ai pas fait ce test pour embêter le monde style Izwalito mais juste pour vérifier - en retapant un article déjà effacé - qu'il serait accepté à la seule condition que ce ne fut point moi qui l'ait ouvertement signé :( 82.224.88.52 23:04, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

NPOV, Flemish Interest and so on

Thanks for your message on my talk page. I saw recent edits from User:Jvb in the Flemish Interest article... Can't say it was very neutral and factual, looks like barely opinions based on original research down there, this does not really fit with Wikipedia policies. I concur removing the whole story was the best solution to start with. Facts, facts, verifiable facts... what else could I say? Happy editing and don't go too emotional in talk page maybe (but I admire your patience and self-control btw...)! --Edcolins 22:04, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

I have made VfD request on The mystery of Dewinter's "unalloyed Fascism". I see that you tried to do the same in the past. Hence I thought I'd rather let you know Refdoc 10:56, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

IP Hacking ...

Check out the bottom of my 1st Talk Archive and check out our earlier discussion about a certain vandal. I think that a person could get varying IPs by using anonymous proxies. Just a thought (I was reading through my old archives) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 02:45, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

By using varying anonymous proxies, you mean ? I don't know how anonymous proxies can be used and how powerful they are, but that's an idea. --FvdP 18:18, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If you use a proxy (and if it's old wp software) it would show the IP of the proxy... — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 23:37, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Flemish Interest

Hi, firstly let me say that i'm certainly not an expert in Belgian politics, but I've noticed the problems you've had on Flemish Interest, so I've had a go at rewriting it to make it NPOV, I was hoping you'd take a look at it and see what you think, so we can end the NPOV dispute. Thanks! -- Joolz 16:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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