Talk:Professional wrestling match types

"This is a one fall match where three wrestlers fight instead of two. The winner of this match is the first wrestler to get a pin fall or submission. What happens in the case of a disqualification is not clear (I've never seen it happen)."

In the event of a disqualification or count-out the match continues with only two legal competitors.

Some missing match types:

• Triple Cage
• Bra and Panties/Tuxedo
• Elmination Chamber
• Survivor Series

Um are these all real? Some look they come from the fictional world of video gamedom. --戴&#30505sv 06:01, Aug 29, 2003 (UTC) There should be a page of wrestling moves and their descriptions.

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Remember that measurements quoted by announcers (such as "20 feet high") are usually overstated for dramatic effect. Don't take them at face value.

I'll start pages listing throws, holds, etc. soon. --gwalla

Contents

1 Cleanup 2 Refactor 3 Dubious matches 4 Splitting and renaming this article 5 Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match

Cleanup

I added a cleanup notice. There's just too many matches under the first main heading. They should be divided into types of matches - submission, hardcore, special stipulation, etc.

I also deleted some "fake" match types. The "David Kara" matchtype was probably fake - for one thing, the only search results Google came up with were two - both link to content from this page. If anyone has evidence on the "School House" one, post it here. --Jtalledo 23:48, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• The only shool house match i can think of is the one between Tommy Dreamer and Chris Nowinski, this saw them fight in a school house room (blackboard, school desks, school chairs and such) but they didnt have to find anything because Dreamer won by pin fall

A lot of these seem redundant. There's several versions of matches that are "no disqualification with gimmick", "strip your opponent", or "get the item to win" with a slightly different gimmick. A lot of them were done only as one-time gimmicks that failed, cheesecake matches involving sub-par women wrestlers with large breasts, or matches that only made sense in context ("I respect you" was only done to put Brian Pillman over. There wasn't even really a match there. It certainly doesn't deserve it's own category, at best it should be a footnote under "I Quit"). A lot of these matches, though, did happen at one time or another. Pro Wresting has never been one to shy away from a bad idea. --UsaSatsui 09:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Refactor

I've just done a bit of cleanup, but this article is in desperate need of a refactor. The list is enormous, and other than the separation into singles, tag, and "extreme" categories there is almost no order to any of it.

I think we should separate multiple-man melees from the regular singles matches, and also separate stipulations on consequences (such as "I Quit"), which can be applied to basically any sort of rule set, from matches with different rules (such as "no DQ" or "ladder match"). And alphabetize everything within those categories. We can probably also consolidate some match types: "I Quit" and Retirement are almost identical, and the Royal Rumble is just a variant of the classic Battle Royale. — Gwalla | Talk 05:40, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Giving this a little bit more thought, I think the article has grown to the point where it can't be easily maintained. How about we split off List of professional wrestling tag team match types and List of professional wrestling melee match types, moving this to List of professional wrestling singles match types, and create a new article Stipulation (professional wrestling) for the stipulations like "I Quit"? Or maybe "list of varieties of..." would be better than "...types", which sounds a little too informal. — Gwalla | Talk 02:25, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Rather than splitting off a list of tag team match types, perhaps merging them into tag team would be more useful? — Gwalla | Talk 03:07, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Dubious matches

Some of the matches in here I've never ever heard of, do not cite any actual uses of the terms, and generally seem of dubious veracity. These include the Bar Room Brawl, Dutchess [sic] of Queensberry Rules Match, Good Housekeeping Match, Jailhouse Match, Junkyard Scrap, and White Castle of Fear Match (says it's just a leather strap match, but where does that name come from?). Match types, like everything in Wikipedia, need to be verifiable. Unless we get some cited instances of these match types in actual use (not your favorite e-fed) soon, I'm going to start deleting them.

Most of the "extreme variations" (I still don't like that division) also need cites, as anyone can come up with a 10,000,000 Thumbtack Barbwire Poisoned Katana C4 Ninja Star Elimination Match or whatever. — Gwalla | Talk 03:07, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Well, I can back up my additions-

• Bar Room Brawl was on July 27, 2003 at Vengeance, including the APA and a few jobbers.
• Duchess of Queensberry match was at a WWF PPV in 2001 between Chris Jericho and William Regal at Backlash on April 28, 2001.
• Jailhouse Match was in the WWF between the Mountie and Big Bossman on August 26, 1991 at Summerslam
• White Castle of Fear match was a heavily promoted Vader / Sting match in WCW at SuperBrawl 3 on February 21, 1993
• Cry Baby match was at In Your House 6 on February 18, 1996.

I don't know about the junkyard match. That one might be fake. The same goes for some of the "extreme variations".

McPhail 23:29, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I have seen a Lucha en Juala Electrificada match before, it was Chessman and Charly Manson vs. Electro Shock and El Zorro. I think I actually wrote a review for that episode... --Darren Jowalsen 02:31, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

The Junkyard match was held as part of WCW's Bash at the Beach 1999, though it was referred to as the "Junkyard Invitational" match, not the "Junkyard Scrap" match. I'll make that correction. Also, the "Good Housekeeping" match was held at WWF No Mercy 1999, between Chyna and Jeff Jarrett. --HBK 16:53, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

Splitting and renaming this article

This article has gotten to be almost unmanageably large. It's time to consider breakouts.

I suggest we break this into separate list articles for singles/three-man matches and melee matches; perhaps the three-man matches (handicap, triple threat, three way dance) should get their own article. Tag team match types should be merged into tag team. Hardcore matches and deathmatches should be merged into hardcore wrestling, as well as any "extreme variations" that we can find citations for. Stipulations (such as "I Quit" and the Luchas de Apuestas) should be broken out into stipulation (professional wrestling). Perhaps cage matches and their variants should be broken out and cage match turned from a redirect into an actual article.

At the very least we need to move this article, as it goes against general article naming conventions. I suggest List of professional wrestling match types or possibly List of types of professional wrestling matches. If we go with the split proposed above, the new title should specify singles matches.

I'm going to start things off by breaking out the tag team matches and adding them to tag team. — Gwalla | Talk 23:21, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match

I found out that this match type is found in two different sections of this article at:

• 1.66.1 Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match and
• 4.4 Barbed-Wire Steel Cage Match

Where should it be placed? - User:Scorpion

In hardcore wrestling with the other hardcore match types. ;) — Gwalla | Talk 02:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)