Talk:Niue
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What about the Vatican? Isn't it self-governing? The Vatican has about 800 inhabitants (see List of countries by population) --zeno 07:53 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)
Niue doesn't have UN membership, it doesn't have diplomatic relations with most of the world, they don't have their own currency or military... I think it is officially considered a territory of New Zealand rather than an independent state by much of the world. I think of it as an independent state, but it's certainly arguable. Perhaps the line about it not being considered its own nation should be re-added with a caveat. --Chowbok
- I agree that it should probably be further elaborated, but I'm not shure that the point about military and currency is really relevant. Iceland has no military, and Ecuador uses the American dollar. The most relevant point that I see is its tight connection to New Zealand and not being part of the UN, the first point is mentioned further down in the text and so should perhaps the second, so the new sentence needn't be long. --Dittaeva 10:47, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I think it's relevant, although I agree with the rest of what you said. Niue is an odd case. It represents itself in international sports that are usually only represented by nations (rather than territories on their own), and does have some standing on its own. Ambivalenthysteria 04:57, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I just corrected the entry on Premier on the point of Niue being a territory or not. There is no doubt that it is dependent on NZ, but any more than the Cook Islands which are also in Free Association? NZ doesn't call it a territory - statements by their ministers I've read suggest they regard it as a nation that is dependent on them. Look to see what was said after the cyclone on Niue. I've never heard a representative of any south pacific nation, Australia or NZ call Niue anything except a soverign nation. Plenty of nations today have limited means and questionable true independence - see Nauru, or the Cook Islands. Robertbrockway 21:40, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I just noted that Niue no longer is listed in the list of countries by population density page. That might or might not mean that CIA no longer recognizes Niue as a country... Just to fuel the discussion. ;-) himasaram 20:11 11 May 2005 (CET)
- I just checked and the CIA still lists Niue as an independent country. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ne.html Robertbrockway 18:34, May 11, 2005 (UTC)