Talk:History of Quebec

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Contents

1 New start 2 Ice Hockey/New England 3 Entertainment perhaps? 3.1 National history 3.2 Regional and municipal history 4 More recent political history ?? 5 Congrats

New start

I believe I have completed a good division of the subject in heads; there is now a structure to help us cover every period of Quebec's history. The equivalent article on the French wiki (fr:Histoire du Québec) has a corresponding heading structure. As much as possible, we should try to keep both sides in sync. -- Mathieugp 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You're kidding. This is overkill for a new article. At best I would expect to fill in the major subheads. --Dhartung | Talk 18:22, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It is not a new article. The history page will reveal that after a hot edit war, people stopped editing the article and the Timeline of Quebec history was started instead. The timeline has been in good shape for a while, so now we are trying to get back to collaboratively editing the History of Quebec. Of course it looks pretty empty right now! :-) -- Mathieugp 20:19, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yeah I was thinking as I was writing part of this...isn't it a bit too much like a timeline? The stuff I added I will try to format into complete sentences and paragraphs later on so it's more encylopedic and less note like. Bremen 16:11, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Ice Hockey/New England

It seems to me that the invention of ice hockey could be mentioned. And certainly the Montreal Canadiens NHL team, also known as Les Habs. As a hockey player myself I know this is not a small thing, and would support the article tremendously. And, as a New Englander, I know that Quebec has a big interest in this area, including Woonsocket RI, many cities in MA, and most parts of NH and ME including Portsmouth and Lewiston. After having been to Montreal, I noticed a definite difference in the feeling of Quebec's influence when comparing New York City and New England. There are very many Quebecois and Quebecois business interests in New England. As the US is an important trading partner with Canada, and as the cultural differences between Canada and the US are ever more important, and are increasingly featured in mainstream media vis SNL, Conan O'Brien, and in similar Canadian media like Kids In The Hall, 22 Minutes and I don't know what else, 'New England as Quebec's Important Neighbor' might be an appropriate presence in the article somewhere down the line. McDogm--McDogm 06:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Entertainment perhaps?

It seems like the whole article's about Quebec's exploration and its politics. Should we include something like '67 Expo or '76 Olympics? pmam21^talk_articles 06:33, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe these would better fit in the History of Montreal article? These were important events, but they pertain more to the social and cultural history of Montreal and Quebec. It's only a question of scope. In the Talk page of the French History of Quebec article ([1] (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discuter:Histoire_du_Qu%C3%A9bec)), I proposed various article names for more specific aspects of Quebec history. The same could be done in English:

National history

• History of Quebec (general)
• History of New France
• Social history of Quebec
• Political history of Quebec
• Economic history of Quebec
• History of the Patriotes movement
• History of modern Quebec

Regional and municipal history

• History of Saguenay-Lac-Saint-Jean
• History of Gaspésie
• History of the Laurentians
• History of Montreal
• History of Quebec City
• History of Trois-Rivières

-- Mathieugp 17:37, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

I was thinking of doing something on L'Anse Amour for the archaic period, does anyone know if there were similar sites in Quebec --Lastexpofan 07:18, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

More recent political history ??

I'm not sure how to merge it in, but I was thinking of writing more about:

1. The laws passed in the 1970's for the protection for the French language, and speakers of the french language, and their effect on both sides.

1. Many wealthy people from Quebec aquiring second homes (and safe deposit boxes) in the American Villages right across the border from Montreal. Many large companies moved executive offices out of Montreal.

1. Just before the vote that defeated the separatists in 1980, the very visible moving of the gold reserves from Montreal to Ottowa (commentators thought that the convoy of armored vehicles impressed on the Quebec residents what being a separate country would really mean). Morris 14:01, May 8, 2005 (UTC)

I think the recent history, in all aspects, will have to be covered eventually. However, dealing with recent political history is sure to undermine our efforts to collaborate. Not that what you want to add is not interesting, but it will reopen the subject that is most likely to bring back edit wars to this article. As I suggested above, I think this article should give us the great lines of the general history of Quebec, and for the other types of history, we can start other articles such as Political history of Quebec, Social history of Quebec etc. What do you think? -- Mathieugp 14:42, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Congrats

Congratulations for all of us who have participated during this article's COTW period. We had about 100 edits during the period! I hope we can all contribute to this article even after the COTW. Congrats! pmam21^talk_articles 00:00, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

I tried a few things on this article. It is one that is close to my heart because I visited Quebec when I was in my teens. Beautiful place. Coming from Alberta I wasn't sure what to expect but I had a good time. The people were very very nice to me. So I would like to help. Give me some suggestions on what to improve. Bremen 06:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)