Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2003
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Hello, Fonzy. I see that you removed "Turkey" from the bit in the opening paragraph which said who won. But aren't people more usually interested in which country has won, rather than who the artist was? I think the winning country should be mentioned in the opening paragraph. -- Oliver P. 13:35 25 May 2003 (UTC)
- I was the person who put Turkey in after the singers name. Her name does not tell me which country won unless I go all through the list of singers to find which country she represents. Im baffled. Fonzy, please explain. Thanks Adrian Pingstone 15:29 25 May 2003 (UTC)
- I forgot to say well done for the huge amount of work you've put into these Eurovision entries. Very well done. Adrian Pingstone 15:32 25 May 2003 (UTC)
- Oh yes, so did I. Sorry. :) Well done, yes. Good stuff. -- Oliver P. 15:34 25 May 2003 (UTC)
- I think I understand why you deleted Turkey, is it because it was not a part of your template? How hard would it be to change the template and why shouldn't improvements be made by other Wikipedians, like I just did? After all, the contest is only once a year (or is it twice from now on?) so a small manual addition to your article is trivial for other people to do. Adrian Pingstone 15:41 25 May 2003 (UTC)
Well thankyou for thaking me :-), well at the moment I have, my AS level's to revise, also I have otehr main things to do on the Eurovision Pages, like Scoresheets, more background info on each contest, information about countries partisipation in the contest, each individual year of each countries particpation (national contests for example). Also I am still waiting help form the EBU about conflicting data I have to get sorted. So at the moment I rather keep certain things under same basic layout, rather than make them look all different, which soem already do, altough only slightly. The original reason why i chose just to put the artist('s)/group's name, is they are the ones that get the pretty award for winning. If it was like the Rugby World Cup, where the "country" wins like Australia, I would put that. - fonzy
BTW I am even goign to see If I am allowed to add, the Rules for each Eurovision. -fonzy
- Cool. Good luck. :) -- Oliver P. 18:43 25 May 2003 (UTC)
Thankyou I will need it. - fonzy
For those who are putting the tieing ruke for non first place read Section XV point 2, of the ESC Rules 2003:
"Should there be a tie for first place, the Grand Prix shall be awarded to the song that has obtained points from the highest number of countries. If the songs received votes from the same number of countries, then the highest number of 12-point scores shall qualify. If the winner cannot be determined by this procedure, then the number of times ten points have been awarded shall be the deciding factor; if necessary, this method shall continue until account has been taken of the number of times one point has been awarded."