Talk:Electra complex
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I'm sorry, but this is completely wrong. Freud did not come up with the Electra Complex, that was Jung - you've got the connection to penis envy all wrong... please read my update on the Oedipus complex article.
--Pteron 02:50, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Why not change it then? :P Wally 19:38, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
REmoved this bit: "This is often falsely ascribed to Sigmund Freud. In fact, it aroused Freud's anger, for he had a more complex construction of the female Oedipal complex", because it's not quite true. Freud did equate Electra complex with feminine Oedipus attitude: "It does little harm to a woman if she remains in her feminine Oedipus attitude. (The term 'Electra complex' has been proposed for it) [By Jung] She will in that case choose her husband for his paternal characteristics and be ready to recognize his authority. Her longing to possess a penis, which is in fact unappeasable, may find satisfaction if she can succeed in completing her love for the organ by extending it to the bearer of the organ, just as happened earlier when she progressed from her mother's breast to her mother as a whole person." -- Nunh-huh 06:16, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Not quite spot on
"when she discovers that she lacks a penis during the phallic stage the daughter becomes libidinally attached to her father and imagines that she will become pregnant by him, while becoming more hostile towards her mother. This is due mostly to the idea that the girl is "envious" of her father's penis and wants to possess it so strongly that she dreams of bearing his children, thus the term "penis-envy".
Im inclined to disagree with this.Although im not the worlds biggest fan (or expert on Freud) of the concept of the 'Electra Complex', i do feel that it could be represented slightly more accurately by saying something like: 'at the phallic stage, the girl is interested in her anatomical equivalent of the penis, the clitoris. However, the size difference brings on an envious desire to have a penis of her own, 'penis envy'. The girl resolves her issues with regards to ‘penis envy’ when she realises there is no hope of achieving masculinity and reconciled herself to life without a penis, allowing the ‘Electra complex’ to take hold. The ‘Oedipus complex’ is resolved, in boys, by the ‘castration complex’ and the fear of castration, but girls, upset by being already ‘castrated’, turn their attention away from their mother, feeling they must have been punished, and a parallel between the two complexes is drawn by the attraction of the girl to her father.' maybe a bit long winded, and it doesn't really stick up for the patchy at best theorizing, but its a tad more precise. comments?--E.J.H.M