Talk:Anxiety
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Alternative medicine
Is palliative care really an alternative medicine? Considering one of the oldest, most mainstream centre's in the world, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, has had a Integrative Medicine Service for close to 5 years now. Where do we draw the line between alternative and mainstream medicine? AstroBlue 14:55, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- First, palliative care is about complementary medicine rather than alternative medicine. Second, it is 'where do you' draw the line rather than where mainstream medicine draws a line. Clearly many physicians are in favor of it. And, clearly some are not.
- This survey exists. It is not hot air. It is reality. It is factual. And, it is the best survey to date. It is also 100% online and in the public domain. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde | Talk]] 04:21, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I'm not discounting the validity of the survey (my point was not in regard to the survey at all). I was questioning the semantics of "The strongest connection can be found in complementary medicine which is well known for using palliative care to treat cancer patients. Some research has strongly suggested that treating anxiety in cancer patients improves their quality of life." and putting it under the title of Anxiety and alternative medicine. When palliative care encompasses far more than just previously alternative medicines. A low dose of radiation to the spine of a patient with a cord-compression is seen as palliative care, a visit to a counsellor or psychologist regarding anxiety is considered palliative care. Would you consider them alternative or complementary? And considering mainstream Oncology's mantra has been "holistic care" for a good 10 years now, and "complementary medicine" has been practiced in one of the most conservative and "old school" centres in the world. Can you really put that under the title of alternative medicine? It's complementary medicine at the least, and integrative medicine at the most. AstroBlue 08:16, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- LOL! An Alternative Medicine Section is precisely that, a section or portion of the article. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde | Talk]] 11:32, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I understand that, again, I wasn't questioning the title of the section. I was questioning the placement of the italicised quote in the section, I think it belongs outside of the alternative medicine section. Because it's not an alternative medicine.
Interpretation of survey percentages
According to the survey itself, "The denominators used in the calculation of percents [in table 3] are the estimated number of adults who used CAM (excluding megavitamin therapy and prayer) within the past 12 months, excluding persons with unknown information about whether CAM was used to treat the specific condition" (footnote, p 9). I believe this means that 4.5 percent of CAM-using adults used CAM to treat anxiety (not "4.9 percent of the population" as currently stated in this article). Any comments before I fix this and other references to this survey?
- Since no one has objected, I am going to begin correcting the references to this survey. I will link to this page from the edit summary in case anyone has further comments.
References
Thank you to user 67.125.168.127 for the additions. If you come back to this page, please insert the citations for the references at the bottom of the article. If you are not sure how to format them then just put them in and I will do it. Thanks again. Have you had a look at the other articles leading from here on those disorders? GAD in particular needs a lot of work. --CloudSurfer 05:01, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
OCD an anxiety disorder?
Is obsessive-compulsive disorder really considered an anxiety disorder? I realize it often goes with PAD, SAD, et al., due to the often-found seratonin link between them, but I'm not sure OCD should be included here. (If it is, then depression should as well.) --Joe Sewell 16:33, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- OCD is currently classified under the DSM as an anxiety disorder. Yes, there is an overlap with depression but for the moment that is how it is generally viewed. I am not familiar with the ICD to tell you how they classify it. --CloudSurfer 10:30, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I are now edumacated (which is the whole point of Wikipedia, isn't it? :) ). Thanks, 'surfer! --Joe Sewell 11:57, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
It may well not
There is an ongoing controverse in the scientific community about wheter OCD is to be classified as an anxiety.
DSM sais it to be, ICD (by the united nations) sais it does not.
From practice, we have a lot of parallels not only in the feelings of people suffering from OCD and anxiety but in the (possible) medication as well. So we may conclude that there are similar neurochemical processes in those deseases.
There may be a sub-group of anxieties that are quite close to OCD. At least that's what I see in my practice.
Nevertheless, I wouldn't include OCD in the anxieties. Rather create sort of an related-topics-link.
Geraldstiehler 10:49, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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