Talk:Alexander Downer

Downer judged ineffective in handling Indonesia by who?

I think he's done a good job in dealing with them, unlike Crean who can't even get his appointments honoured.


I don't respond to anonymous comments. Adam 04:33, 18 Oct 2003 (UTC)


Can you help us out on Political families of the world? I don't know which of you wrote that Alexander Downer is related to Bob Carr (premier of NSW), but I quoted from this article as fact on the Political families of the world page of Wikipedia, and have now been challenged to provide a source for the claim. Can somebody do this for me? Thanks! Davidcannon 10:21, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I have to doubt this very much - since it's an anon edit, I'm going to remove the point from the page until someone challenges me otherwise. The fact that they're on opposing parties makes me think this is someone taking the mickey on this... Dysprosia 10:34, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I seriously question the statement about a majority of Australians supporting the Howard Government's policy of close alliance with the US. This is the very sort of issue that politicians and people generally argue endlessly about, each side producing their own evidence and counter-arguments. That makes it, in my book, intrinsically arguable and therefore, by definition, not NPOV. Comments? JackofOz 08:38, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Meh. I left that in when I took out some more obviously POV material on a majority of Australians supporting the Iraq war before, because I thought that was fairly widely agreed on. From what I can remember, the polls have shown a majority in favor, and both main political parties support it rather strongly (which I doubt very much Labor would do if that position had much support). Still, if you want to take it out, I wouldn't object - it's not exactly relevant to this article. Ambivalenthysteria 12:19, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Labor founded the US alliance and has always supported it, even when dissenting from the US over issues like Vietnam and Iraq. As far as I know opinion polls have always shown majority support for the alliance in principle, but opinion obviously fluctuates on specific issues like Iraq. Even so I think the Iraq war had majority support before and during the war. I suspect that support has now retrospectively evaporated as a result of the WMD debacle and general contempt for Bush. I agree that the point is not really relevant to this article. Adam 01:19, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)


Where did the picture for this come from, and is it possible to get images of other pollies from there? Ambivalenthysteria 00:54, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I don't remember where I got that pic from. You can get free non-copyright photos of all current federal MPs and senators at the Parliament of Australia website (http://wwww.aph.gov.au). Adam 03:23, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Excellent. Thanks. Julia Gillard and Aden Ridgeway will be pictureless no more. Ambivalenthysteria 06:23, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Anyone else think that the link offered at the end of the article is a "satire" site rather than a true "fan-site"? Aggelophoros 00:09, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Should his electorate (Division of Mayo) be added somewhere? Alphax (t) (c) (e) 09:02, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)

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