User talk:Solver

Contents

1 On X-Files 2 Y S Rajashekar Reddy 3 Image Tagging 4 Thanks 5 No more lyrics 6 Eugene Onegin (opera) 7 Sim City 4 Fan Sites 8 BlueRhythmJohnny 9 It's not hateful, it's true 10 Darth Tater? 11 External Links

On X-Files

I was just wondering... do you think it is a good idea to put all X-Files episode descriptions on one page of the season, as you have done in moving separate articles? I can see the advantages of this, but am worried that the pages of seasons then may become very big and hard to overlook with all episodes filled in, as I'm currently working on adding more? Thanks for taking the care of articles, however! Solver 15:20, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I doubt they'll get too big. Take a look at Futurama (TV series) episode pages for a look at how this sort of thing can work. Keepin them on one page (per season) will allow us to keep the formatting of each summary consistent. It's always posible that at some future date these can be spilt off if they are truly too large, but I doubt it. There is only so much you can write about these. -- Netoholic @ 15:42, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Good point, seems like a rather decent example to follow. Thanks for the help. Solver 15:48, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

765,000 volt power transmission line seems to exist. Do you still want to cancel the VfD? Niteowlneils 00:44, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I do, I hit the page at the moment when it was nonsensical. Solver 18:43, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Y S Rajashekar Reddy

Under which speedy deletion criterion does this article fall? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 20:01, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The same question for The Gold Bug Variations. I've removed the tag from there; "poorly written and somewhat POV" is certainly not a case for speedy deletion. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 20:02, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

When I added the delete to both articles, they made no sense whatsoever. I looked at The Gold Bug Variations for some time, it doesn't clearly mention what it is clearly so seemed nonsensical. The other article, Y S Rajashekar Reddy, isn't just POV, it does not contain any facts at all, only being praise for a person - well, at least the person exists. However, the entire article is claims and subjective statements about that person without even stating what country is he from, who he actually is, etc., and seemes a definite deletion candidate to me. Solver 21:08, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Image Tagging

Thanks for uploading Image:Alexkrycek.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. For now, the image is marked {{unverified}}. Thanks so much, Superm401 06:19, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for uploading Image:Alexkrycek.jpg. Please leave a note on that page about the source of the image because of copyright law. Thank you. --Ellmist 06:16, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The image is a screencap from an X-Files ep, either Tunguska or Terma, I think. I recognize the bunch of bearded Russian dudes in the background. {{film-screenshot}} should cover it.

That's correct, a Tunguska screencap, and the film screenshot tag covers it, thanks for applying that :). Solver 22:43, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Cheers, mate. They seem to have got bored and gone away now! Anilocra 15:46, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'll keep watching his contribs page and your userpage history, though, for a bit more, just in case. Solver 15:47, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No more lyrics

Please stop adding lyric links to song articles. Those are copyright violations, which we can not have in our articles. Please go back over those articles to which you have added lyric links and remove them (I have already removed some of them for you). -- LGagnon 23:10, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

• I was told on the Help Desk that adding lyrics constitutes copyright violations, but NOT adding links to lyric sites. Referrence: here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Song_lyrics), where User:Cyrius tells me that links are acceptable. I'll stop adding lyrics for now, but I want to see this dispute resolved. I am not a legal expert, but as far as I know, educational use is typically an exception for the copyright law - and here on Wikipedia lyric links serve an educational non-commercial value (just like the lyric sites themselves are not illegal under the copyright law). Therefore, I'd appreciate some more input on this. Solver 13:57, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Whether or not using them here or somewhere else counts as "educational" is still questionable. You can use a small amount of the lyrics (2 or so lines) under fair use in the articles, but anything more would be a copyvio. As for other sites, few of them ask for permission, and just as few are meant to be educational sites. Thus, most of them are very possibly illegal. And linking to illegal sites could be potentially bad for Wikipedia. I'm not a legal expert either, but I wouldn't doubt that Wikipedia would be in legal trouble if we linked to illegal sites. I doubt we could get away with linking to warez sites or other contraban sites, so this should be treated no different. -- LGagnon 17:58, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
    • I agree insofar that linking to illegal sites, like warez, is bad for Wikipedia. My point is that lyrics sites are legal (note that they always say that lyrics are copyright of respective owners and that they are provided for educational use). I've done some Googling and it appears those sites are legal, and moreover, there are many big lyric sites, and I don't hear of anyone trying to take them down as copyvios. My assumption is that if a site says "all material is provided for educational purposes", then it is so. Do we have someone with legal background here on Wikipedia that we could ask? Solver 18:02, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Eugene Onegin (opera)

Here's what I suggest:

1. Make a judgement: would this material be worth having? If not, just delete it.
2. If it's worth keeping, then paraphrase or cut sufficiently so that there should be no copyright issue in the resulting text. In short, use it as you would use any other reference: this includes explicitly crediting the original source (see Wikipedia:Cite sources).

The situation isn't ideal, but it's the one we're faced with. Note that either way we are stuck with a copyvio in the history; if the original copyright owner complains, we need to get a developer to actually fix it. However, this almost never happens. -- Jmabel | Talk 16:31, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

• I've paraphrased some, cut some and hopefully it's OK now. We won't have a problem with the copyright owners, as there is still very little respect for copyright in Russia, and they certainly won't raise a complaint with us. But either way, the article should no longer constitute a copyvio. Solver 19:31, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sim City 4 Fan Sites

I noticed that you have previously reverted a user named Superchad for adding links to various Sim City 4 fansites. I'm not sure if this dispute has been settled or not but I want to ask a question or two regarding one of the sites. You are quoted as saying in your edit summary that you "Remove DudyConstructor", because its a "non-notable site with extremely little content". I want to ask how exactly you define 'extremely little content'. Superchad also has posted what he has said to be "his company site" however this had nothing on it, and I wouldn't mind this be deleted. But the DudyConstructor site has thousands of posts at its forums, and an exchange for its members to share their creations. I think that the amount of information in the forums at DudyConstructor is a little more than "extremely little content". If thats the case, then Simtropolis can be deleted also because it is the same format; forums and exchanges, only on a much larger scale. It's not like we're making these articles, you know. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:48, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:External links. It says that we should have one fansite (or alright, that is preferred). Going along with that, DudyConstructor indeed has way too little content - way too little to be the only fansite represented. I've also only reverted Superchad once in Sim City 4, the real problem lies with Age of Empires III where I and other users have revertd him numerous times as he insisted on adding a link to a certain clan site. Solver 20:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Understood. -- Riffsyphon1024 01:32, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

BlueRhythmJohnny

Hi this is BlueRhythmJohnny, you went to delete some of my pages and I'd really like if you didn't, as I want to be able to send them to friends and people to show that I wrote an article. But everything I put up people are trying to delete it - and the oy carumba joke, that's funny! and I really do make frankensauce, I promise you.

See What Wikipedia is not. You're not supposed to add jokes or articles about personal stuff here. Try to write an article about something else instead. Your idea to start on a manga article was a better one. Also, check out the tutorial. Solver 21:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi this is BlueRhythmJohnny, you went to delete some of my pages and I'd really like if you didn't, as I want to be able to send them to friends and people to show that I wrote an article. But everything I put up people are trying to delete it - and the oy carumba joke, that's funny! and I really do make frankensauce, I promise you. Sorry, I guess the oy carumba thing is kind of nonsense - but the frankensauce is real, and there are plenty of people called baldy or ol' baldy, and Slut Girl is awesme. BlueRhythmJohnny 21:59, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Check out that link I posted above. The Frankensauce is a personal thing anyway, and doesn't belong here. Also, we don't include slang and word definitions here, as they are not really encyclopedia articles, despite the fact that a lot of people may be called Baldy. As for Slut Girl, you see that a vote is undergoing and the article might actually be kept. Note that Slut Girl is only a vote for deletion (so people vote and decide whether to delete), but the other pages are speedy deletion candidates (which means, usually, that they get deleted within a few minutes). Solver 22:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Can I keep the Frankensauce recipe on my homepage? How do you indent? Is that the colons?

Indent this BlueRhythmJohnny 22:04, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, the colons are indents. Try the Sandbox for experimenting with markup. I guess yes, you can keep your recipe on your user page here. Generally, your user page should contain stuff related to Wikipedia, but it's normal to have some personal stuff there, too, many of us have something about ourselves, so if you want to include a recipe, feel free to. here is a good list of guidelines about user pages. Take a bit of time to read the different help pages (you have the links now) and it will be a lot easier for you. Solver 22:08, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

It's not hateful, it's true

Ariel Sharon is a Jewish terrorist. How could you call that vandalism or hateful? (was added by User:Dick Upton)

Well, it is hateful towards most Jewish people, but more importantly, it's in the violation of one of the fundamental Wikipedia policies, the neutral point of view. Labeling Sharon (or Arafat or Abbas) a terrorist is NOT neutral in any way. These are all definitely controversial persons, but labeling someone a terrorist is not the way to work here, please read the NPOV page. Solver 13:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Darth Tater?

You are probably not going to believe tis but Darth Tater seems to be a genuine product. Perhaps the article is non-notable trivia but it isn't quite nonsense. --Doc Glasgow 22:31, 7 May 2005 (UTC) (not the creator)

I Googled for it and was about 97% sure that it's a joke. If it's a genuine product nonetheless, then I am absolutely amazed at the imagination of its creators :). Solver 22:35, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

External Links

There seems to be some dispute over what justifies an external link in the Age of Empires III article that I was just hoping could be resolved. The links that you are consistently removing should be quite useful to visitors of Wikipedia, and there was no conflict over whether or not they should be included before. I was just curious why you've decided to remove them now.

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see the External Links link you provided. Thanks for helping clear this up anyways.

(above added by User:SoggyFrog)

Yes, to clear it up again, the reason I keep removing those links is Wikipedia:External links policy. Please note that addition of other links might be justified if there indeed appears another site with a lot of non-duplicated content, but that's something for after AoE3 is released, and not certain even then. You'll notice that most other games only have one fansite link, too, which is the biggest fansite - for instance, that goes for Age of Empires II. Solver 12:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

The External Links Policy suggests a directory of fansites in extreme cases, and it seems that there will be a problem here if only one site is provided. The change has been made, and I don't think there's anything worth contesting; people can simply visit the directory. Anyways, if there are changes to be made there, edits won't have to be made on Wikipedia. SoggyFrog 20:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

It does not constitute an extreme case now. The game isn't even released. So unlike other games, there are no fansites with a lot of different content. There are a few traditional Age sites that cover AoE3 (Through The Ages, Planet Age of Empires, Age of Empires Heaven), but the information there is generally the same. Plus, there are a couple of useless personal sites that are definitely not notable enough. At this point though, it's really not neccessary to have a listing.

If you still disagree, I am probably going to ask for someone else to comment on this issue. Solver 22:52, 25 May 2005 (UTC)