User talk:Robin Hood

Archive page May-June 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robin_Hood/Archives)

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Robin -- No hard feelings at all. We'll see what comes of it, and if the image is removed, I'll uplaod the stamp instead. But no, no hard feelings for acting your conscience. ;) — Adam Conover † 06:18, Jul 16, 2004 (UTC)

Slavic languages map

Is the map available in a "layered" form, so that it is more amenable to translation for other language Wikipedias? MGTom 00:53, 2005 Mar 14 (UTC)

Yes, it's true that Wikipedia is a work in progress, and I appreciate the effort, but we weren't just bothering you without reason about it. The map that you replaced had avoided various problems that yours has, simply by being obviously vague. Anyone could see that it was just a sketch and nobody bothered to point out the same glitches.

You replaced the more vague map with a more precise one, and thereby you raised the standard yourself. It's not unreasonable that others would expect you to follow your own criteria (clear borders and exact delineation of languages).

Also, the "d'oh!" was only in reply to your raising your voice in the sentence before. :) Please don't be discouraged by the occasional misunderstanding and thanks for the invested effort. --Joy [shallot] 10:52, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

In case no one else has mentioned it, excellent job on the map. Very professional looking, and it's good of you to take on the huge task of editing the map to encompass the common wisdom of many Wikipedians. Did you know how much work it would be when you started? Cheers. —Michael Z. 16:15, 2004 Sep 25 (UTC)

You might be interested in these:

Ethnologue's language map of Ukraine (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_map.asp?name=Ukraine&seq=1) and map of European (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_map.asp?name=Russia+%28Europe%29) and Asian Russia (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_map.asp?name=Russia+%28Asia%29).

An old Ukrainian language map (http://harazd.net/~nadbuhom/mapy-historia/mapy_8.htm). The legend reads:

 1 Northern dialects
 2 Southern dialects
   a Western group
   b Eastern group
 3 Transitional dialects

Cheers, Michael Z.

Hope you don't mind my cluttering up your talk page, but I don't have anywhere else useluf to make a note of these. Found another lingustic map of Ukraine (http://www.personal.ceu.hu/students/97/Roman_Zakharii/dialekty.jpg). I think it's from the monograph: Fedir Zhylko (1958), Hovory ukraïns’koï movy. Legend:

North-western Dialects of the Ukrainian Language
  1 Volyn'ian dialects
  2 Polissian dialects
  3 Halychian dialects
4-5 Carpathian (Hutsulian & Boykovian) dialects
6,7 Pokuttian dialects
  8 Kyivan-Poltavan dialects
  9 new-Russian dialects [i think]

—Michael Z. 06:35, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)"'

another historic map (http://www.personal.ceu.hu/students/97/Roman_Zakharii/east-slavic.jpg).

Dialects of east-Slavic languages (F. Zhylko, Yu. Kars'kiy and members of the Moscow Dialect Commission.

a) Ukrainian language
    1 south-west dialects
    2 Kievan-Poltavan dialect
  3-4 Polissian dialects
b) Belorusian language
    5 3rd Kars'ko group
    6 2nd Kars'ko group
    7 1st Kars'ko group
    8 5th Kars'ko group
    9 6th Kars'ko group [I don't know what a Karsko group is]
c) Russian language
   10 Pskov dialect
11-12 Novhorod dialect
   13 Tula group of south-Russian dialects
   14 Kursk-Orlov group of south-Russian dialects
   15 transitional Russian-Belarusian dialects
   16 Moldavian language

In all of these I have translated as "dialect" the three words dialekt, hovor and hovirok. I'm not familiar with the terminology, but it sounds to me like "dialect", "speak" and "little speak".