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Minor edits

In recognition of your dedicated use of the minor edit, I award you the Minor Barnstar
In recognition of your dedicated use of the minor edit, I award you the Minor Barnstar ClockworkSoul

You and the rest of your team have been making excellent and much needed minor edits. In recognition of your dedication, I offer you my sincere gratitude, and this Minor Barnstar. -- [[User:ClockworkSoul|]] 07:11, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project

Hi. You've helped with User:Sietse Snel/Fix common mistakes project, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)


Convective overturn

Thanks for the copyedit, it looks much better. Stirling Newberry 02:49, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It/they

"Team" is singular. It has always been my brief that singular nouns (even if they describe groups) take "it." I couldn't find anything to the contrary in the Style Guide you quoted. What, in particluar, were you referring to? Sunray 07:52, 2004 Dec 18 (UTC)

A Google search for "collective nouns plural" (http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=collective+nouns+plural&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) has about 8 of the first 10 hits explaining that they can be either singular or plural. But the specific link I gave contained this quote:

The collective noun “faculty” can be used in singular and plural senses and can take a singular or plural verb.
  • Faculty as a singular group.
  • Faculty meaning individual members.
  • The geology faculty meets regularly with other science faculties.
  • The faculty sometimes disagree among themselves.

I thought the latter case was analogous to our "production team" usage, but the point is debatable. Perhaps your notion of rephrasing the sentence to avoid the issue is a good one, but I'd like to avoid eye-popping constructions like "so as to be able to" if possible. --P3d0 19:41, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)

Faculty is different because it has both singular and plural senses. Team does not. However, I like the way you have solved the problem with your latest edit. Sunray 01:25, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Ok, seems the problem is solved, but I think you're mistaken about collective nouns. Below are a couple of Google hits for "collective nouns plural team":

"In British usage, however, collective nouns are more often treated as plurals: The team are playing in the test matches next week."
"When the members are acting as individuals, the collective noun is plural and requires plural verbs and pronouns. [Example:] ...the team shower, change into their street clothes, and head to their air-conditioned homes."

Having said that, I can understand if you believe that the production team is acting as a unit in our particular situation, in which case American convention would require the pronoun should be singular. In any case, if it's going to be this controvercial, we're better off rephrasing it. --P3d0 17:01, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)

Well, o.k., I've just learned something. As a Canadian, I thought I knew more about British style than those other North Americans, but here clearly, I had been influenced by American style guides. However, I would say that many British style guides are ambivalent on this topic. The Oxford Style Manual is not available online, so I looked at a variety of journalistic ones. The Times Style and Usage Guide (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,2941,00.html) captures the ambiguity in the following way:
collective nouns usually use the singular verb, as with corporate bodies (the company, the Government, the council etc). But this rule is not inviolable; the key is to stick to the singular or plural throughout the story - sentences such as “The committee, which was elected recently, presented their report” are unacceptable.
Then there's the good old BBC PDF version of the BBC News Style Guide (http://www.bbctraining.com/pdfs/newsStyleGuide.pdf):
It is the policy of BBC Radio News that collective nouns should be plural, as in The Government have decided. Other departments, such as BBC Online, have resolved that collective nouns should always be singular, as in The Government has decided. BBC Television News has no policy and uses whichever sounds best in context.The difficulty for writers comes because there is no rule – collective nouns can be either singular or plural.
But I am glad you decided to avoid this whole mess. Your current phrasing will be clear for the vast majority of English-speaking readers whether they come from one side of the Atlantic, or the other, or from down under. Sunray 19:58, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Interesting. It certainly seems like avoiding the issue is most prudent.  :-) Thanks for the links. --P3d0 02:29, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

J002E3

Thanks for doing the copyedit on the article. Reads much better than it did.Evil MonkeyTalk 20:41, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

Grateful Dead on Archive.org

I reinstated the archive.org link (which you had removed as being 'apparently irrelevant') to Deadhead, and made it more specific. (http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Grateful%20dead%20AND%20mediatype%3Aetree%20AND%20collection%3Aetree) is a link directly to the search query "Grateful Dead" in their category "Audio". I think it's pretty relevant, as it's one of the largest collection of prime Dead recordings in existence, and has fast servers. Just letting you know, in case you were interested. Nice to meet you. Pedant 23:07, 2005 Jan 10 (UTC)

Giant Impact.jpg

Please, go here. Gbiten 11:28, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

4179 Toutatis

I removed "chaotic", because there is no such group of asteroids. It is true that Toutatis' rotation is chaotic, and as it is a near-Earth object, its orbit is unstable in long term. But "Category" line refers to different groups of asteroids (by orbit): for example Main belt, Apollo, Jupiter trojan asteroids. --Jyril 22:01, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

Ref and Note

Hi; how do you feel about foot/end-noting with the template names ref and note. I personally prefer note to endnote because a) it's shorter (less typing) and b) it's not possible to get into disagreements about whether a note at the foot of an article is a foot-note or an endnote :-)

Currently note is completely compatible with ref / endnote but formats slightly differently (cite instead of sup and uparrow instead of star). I've announced this on Wikipedia Talk:Footnote3 and will be updating the main page soon if there aren't strong objections. Mozzerati 09:47, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)

Indeed, I actually prefer note. I think I used endnote only because note was already taken. --P3d0 14:32, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Category:The Greatest Canadian

Hi. This category was previously deleted in favor of the article The Greatest Canadian. The category will be deleted again. Please do not re-create it. Thanks. RedWolf 05:35, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Why? --P3d0 02:22, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
See CFD Discussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion&diff=next&oldid=9244229). RedWolf 03:11, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
Ah, thanks. --P3d0 13:47, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

Numbering from one or zero

Thanks for pointing out that numbering from 1 can be implemented just as efficiently. I have been on the point of adding this myself, but hesitated, expecting a POV war from the C adepts. Long before C existed, I implemented a memory allocation and array handling system using the method you indicate. It only excludes address 0 to be included in an array, but that is generally not used anyway for application data. −Woodstone 08:57, 2005 May 29 (UTC)

Architecture of Btrieve

Yep, that's correct :-) Thanks for your assistance! - Ta bu shi da yu 02:41, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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