User talk:Mark Richards

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WikiProject Sustainability

Hi Mark!

You asked what you could do in WikiProject Sustainability. If you'd like to be part of the project please add your name to the participants list. There's now a long list of open tasks too to give you an idea of what can be done. I'm hoping to make Wikipedia a really valuable resource for sustainability and ecology.

Thanks for your interest!

--Pengo 10:57, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Been off for a while

I have been taking some time off Wikipedia for a while, so in case there was anything that I said I would do that I didn't, I havn't! Mark Richards 17:29, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

You've been missed, Mark. I hope to see you back often. :-) In your absence, I've become an arbitrator, so I need more than ever to hear your excellent voice of dissent and consider the perspectives that it raises. Best wishes, Jwrosenzweig 00:41, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

beta Systemic Bias section

Hi, if you wish to help contribute to a beta version of a Wikipedia page section designed to counter-act Wikipedia's systematic bias, please sign the bottom of this section on the Village pump - Wikipedia:Village_pump#Systemic_bias_in_Wikipedia. If not, no worries.--Xed 03:26, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

beta Systemic Bias section opened

See User:Xed/CROSSBOW. Please feel free to add to the discussion. --Xed 12:56, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Notability

Good evening, Mark. In a recent VfD discussion thread, you said that "notability" is not one of the deletion criteria. As we commonly use the term, actually it is.

Notability is often a proxy for verifiability. It is not enough that one person can theoretically verify the existence of something at the time of writing. For Wikipedia to retain credibility, we need a critical mass of informed editors who are willing to watch each particular article and protect it from subtle vandalism for years. Topics that are extremely non-notable generally can not meet that standard and can not be maintained.

The "notability" test is also a part of our defense against bias (which is the real reason that we delete Original Research, Vanity and Wikispam - it's just too much work to keep NPOV). A topic that is insufficiently notable is very difficult to defend against bias, especially if the subject of the article is a Wikipedia participant. By limiting the topics of discussion to "notable" topics, we are far more likely to have enough editors to ensure that the topic is addressed neutrally. The community consensus is that if only a few people are talking about topic X, the burden of proof is on the article's contributor to provide evidence that the article can be saved.

You might want to look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and some of the related discussion pages. This is a topic that gets discussed a lot. Good luck. Rossami 21:54, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply that "notability" was explicitly discussed at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. I just wasn't sure if you'd seen it yet or not. Your list of "reasons for deletion" sounded suspiciously like the synopsis at Wikipedia:Deletion policy. WWIN is generally considered to be the controlling page. If there is a discrepancy between WWIN and Deletion policy, WWIN wins. Apologies if I'm telling you something you already knew.
You also asked where, exactly, the definition of "notability" is written down. One of the problems with Wikipedia is that we are guided by community consensus rather than top-down dictates and authority. (It's also one of our greatest strengths but that's a different discussion.) The consensus emerges through discussions, debates and precedent all over the Wikipedia. Few of the consensuses (consensi?) are promptly updated to the various policy pages. (Assuming you can even find the appropriate policy page - another problem that we have been wrestling with lately.)
The consensus on the notability "rule" emerged across months of individual VfD discussion threads just like the one on the programming languages. The rationale for the rule has never been written that I know of. The standards for implementation have been drafted for a few specific cases but even they remain contentious.
  • For people, see Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion of biographies
  • For schools, see User:Dpbsmith/BEEFSTEW
  • For towns, the consensus is "if it's in the Census, keep it". In one contentious precedent, we kept an 80-person housing unit. (By the way, I'd love to find that discussion thread again. In my opinion, that was the genesis of the "maintainability" argument.)
  • There's also a general rule that "if the content of each article is small, a single list is better than a mess of sub-stub articles".
You are correct that we need to balance the "notability test" against the "I'm not interested so delete" votes. All I can say is that after watching VfD for months, I have become convinced of the good faith of most participants. They (we?) show a great deference for facts and logical arguments and remain true to our greater purpose of writing an encyclopedia. The few people who abuse the system are pretty consistently shouted down. Many esoteric topics are kept. It just takes a couple of people whose comments show that they are both interested and expert enough to maintain the page. Hope that helps. Rossami 22:49, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading Image:Chillies.jpg; it's very pretty. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know whether it's released under the GFDL, whether fair use is claimed, or what? Thanks, Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 02:52, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)


wikifun

i noticed your reply and wondered if you wanted to add any ideas or even to do a colaboration. also where would i be able to stick a link where people would see it?? --Larsie 21:54, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Coconut crab

Hi. A couple of months ago you left me some praise on my talk page for my article on the Coconut crab. Thanks! I just nominated the article on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates, so please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions about what I should add to the article. Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 03:21, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)

URGENT: Opposition to "Sam Spade": See User:Spleeman/Sam Spade

See a critic's tracking of SamSpade's activities on Wikipedia at User:Spleeman/Sam Spade Vote "NO", or reverse your vote, even at this late hour. This is criticle (and critical) information! IZAK 09:46, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

See: User:Spleeman/Sam Spade#Political bias:

  • From Sam's own user page: User:Sam_Spade/Theoretical_Biases
  • Removes references to groups such as the KKK as "right-wing" [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Christian_Identity&diff=4943422&oldid=4943399)
  • Attempts to sugarcoat racist views [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Racial_hygiene&diff=4096573&oldid=4096566)
  • The claim the Geli Raubal was Hitler's mistress is just that, a claim [3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4721347&oldid=4712484).
  • Wants Hitler labeled as a socialist on the communism page (see Talk:Communism)
  • Insists on including his personal theories regarding a relationship between nazism and Chinese communism in nazism article:
  • From Talk:Socialism:
    • "I intend to do what I always have, which is insist that the Nazi's were socialist because... they were." (Sam Spade 00:32, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC))
  • Called another editor a "fascist" (Talk:Socialism#protection). This is similar to his attempts to try to provoke me by implying that I was a nationalist, or not an anarchist:
  • More on belief in non-racial eugenics: Why Sam is Right Wing (a list by User:Stopthebus18)
    • Stopthebus18: "People (including our country) have done horrible things in the name of eugenics." (StoptheBus18 16:02, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC))
    • Sam Spade: "Seems to work in Singapore. Bad things have been done in the name of all sorts of medicine, but we don't stop going to the doctor, do we?" (Sam Spade 17:21, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC))
  • Guess what everybody!!! "The attempt to paint them [the Nazis] as "reactionaries" is a propagandistic fraud." (Sam Spade 16:11, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC), Talk:Nazism) Wow! You learn something new everyday.... Not.
  • Hmm. For some reason, Sam doesn't want anybody to know that white-supremacist Wolfgang Droege was involved in drug trafficking [4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wolfgang_Droege&diff=5379717&oldid=5379713).

Blocking

I went on a blocking hiatus for about a week and I have seriously cut back. RickK 06:05, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)

Top Banana

Is your name a refernce to the fantastic game Top Banana? Mark Richards 17:56, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

  • Hi Mark. Sadly I never experienced the wonders of the game you mention (I was an - gasp! - Atari ST user). I started using the name on a TiVo discussion forum, that being the phrase that came to mind when I finally grokked what they do. - TB 07:46, 2004 Oct 13 (UTC)

The Recycling Troll

Gee whiz, someone with a play on "troll" for a username who is going around being a deliberate pain in the ass, I can't imagine who that would be. - Hephaestos|§ 12:40, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Margin of error (disambiguation)

Since this page does not yet point to more than one article, nor even mention what the other topics are, it's not yet really a disambiguation page. Should some material be added before you link to? The comment at the top of the page at margin of error seems like false advertising until that happens. Michael Hardy 19:36, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Poll

I have created a preliminary version of Wikipedia:VfD decisions not backed by current policies/poll. Your comments would be much appreciated. - SimonP 17:10, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

FYI

For Your Information-Vandalism is a legitimate reason for blocking. Eitherway since my point has been made and I did not make the intial blocks I won't revert on the block log. I would, however, think it to be appropriate if you discussed your unilatteral action with silsor considering he enacted the indefinite blocks. Thanks. Arminius 02:55, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Come join the AIW

You are not currently a member of the Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians. We encourage you to become a member, by listing yourself as such on the AIW page. Posiduck 05:05, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Deletionism

Central High School the largest highschool in Traverse city is up for deletion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Central_High_School). Schools stubs can grow and I believe are inherently important articles, i hope you will vote to keep this article :o). --ShaunMacPherson 20:29, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

WP:VFD/HS

Just letting you know that I thought you might be interested in taking a look at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/High schools, as well as what I wrote on Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy. Lowellian (talk)[[]] 05:44, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)

Creative Commons

Hey, just wanted to let you know that you can use the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template on your user page to update your Creative Commons license to include version 2.0 as well as version 1.0. -- Ram-Man 03:03, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

I've been following your thread over at the Village Pump. I mod for a Creative Commons by-sa based wiki, so I follow the issue pretty close. Here is a Village Pump thread I started when I first found out about GFDL/CC incompatibility, in case you want to read up on prior art. I was planning on getting back on the issue soon, but your thread left me a bit flat-footed. I've put in my two cents - hopefully I didn't hurt matters. Since the problem is technically complex, we probably ought to solicit advice from coders and other Wiki movers and shakers before attempting to go on the Village Pump again. Assuming, of course, that the problem isn't solved in the current attempt. Unfortunately, it looks like everbody is distracted with the upcoming holidays and the AbCom election. So, after the first of the year, do you want to help get a posse together? crazyeddie 23:04, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Image:Tulehu.png

Thanks for uploading Image:Tulehu.png. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 18:38, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that. It's a great picture, by the way. Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 18:41, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

What is damaging?

I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure what you meant by "but please, this is very damaging". Could you explain? Sorry \-: siroχo 22:35, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Your concern is something I took into account before removing the pages from VfD. Yes, we do have a process and it's part of the deletion policy. If you take a look at it you'll see what the cases under which you can list an item on vfd are. (top of the "Problems that may require deletion" section) The ones I removed clearly did not apply to any of those cases, thus the process never even should have started. Its not even that another solution was found and we should wait a day to remove them, its that the listings do not comply with the deletion policy at all. I see no reason to let them linger. siroχo 22:45, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps encouraging "education" of vfd-goers would help the most. I bet most people voting for the first time on VfD, and probably even several regulars are not entirely familiar with the deletion policy (hence the persistence of unqualified "non-notable"s as reasons). I don't think there is major need for reform considering the current deletion model, except that the policy should be enforced better. This would, in part, involve removing invalid listings as they appear, instead of assuming that its everyone's right to list any article they wish on VfD. Perhaps I acted a little rashly, but when an abuse of policy is entirely obvious, I see no reason to allow it to continue instead of taking steps to correct it immediately, even if it must be on a case-by-case basis. siroχo 23:04, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

I see your point regarding subjectiveness of appropriate listings, and that premature removal could be dangerous. But at present there really isn't anything else stopping someone from listing several articles that do not merit deletion on vfd just to troll. I have to drive a friend to the airport right now, but I'll keep thinking on this. siroχo 23:19, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

Debate about deleting an image

Greetings. There is a spirited debate going on here about whether or not to delete Image:Nevada-Tan.jpg for privacy reasons. Since you have recently voiced an opinion on Wikipedia:Divulging personal details, I thought you might be interested in weighing in. Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 18:46, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

After ten days, it was 8 to 8 or 9, and there was no clear consensus. On ifd, if there is no clear consensus to delete, the image stays. I removed the ifd notice from the pic. Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 22:43, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)


Unverified images

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair us

Also:

Another one

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}}: Template:Gfdlif you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}}

This work is copyrighted. The individual who uploaded this work and first used it in an article, and subsequent persons who place it into articles assert that this qualifies as fair use of the material under United States copyright law.

if you claim fair use, and so on.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the image from, and I'll tag it for you. Thanks so much. Denni 04:23, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at Wikipedia:Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

GIS tutorials

I'm actually rather new to GIS (only been working in the field for a couple years now - still so much I don't know). Sadly there isn't anything free on the Internet that I know of, but ESRI courses seem to be pretty good (if a bit pricey). See http://campus.esri.com/campus/coursesearch/search/processNewUsersCatalog.cfm?CFID=3901879&CFTOKEN=88883689 I've only taken a few of those courses, but I think they were well worth the money. Unless you know you will have to work with it, I'd stay away from ArcView 3.x and go with learning ArcGIS 9.x since the former is being phased out. --mav 01:13, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

VfD

I don't see how BM listing Lloyd House on VfD is 'deletion trolling', as you so eloquently put it. Just because you're an inclusionist doesn't mean that some deletion vote requests you don't agree with are 'trolling'. You are very much in the minority on the keep side on this one. hfool 22:49, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Of course, no harm done. Happy new year to you as well. hfool 01:42, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)


I'm curious as to what this means: "And please stop deletion trolling." I've noticed that you include that phrase on many of the numerous deletion pages you vote on. What exactly do you consider "deletion trolling"? Knowing that reasonable people can differ over what should be posted on VfD, wouldn't it be better to simply vote and leave it at that? Carrp 02:55, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Blocks are not expiring

I'm posting this message on every admin who has made a block in the last few days. The title says it all really: because of a bug in the new software blocks are not expiring when their time is up. Until this is fixed can you get in the habit of manually unblocking a few everytime you block one. If everyone does this we'll be able to keep on top of things until the bug is sorted out. Note also that another bug is displaying indefinite blocks as expiring at the current time and date. obviously you don't want to unblock those. If you want to reply please do so here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Blocking_bug) Theresa Knott (The snott rake) 10:14, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

yes redirect would be correct...but

Asking for a deletion of Subtractive color space No I should not ask for a deletion. But If you try to redirect WITH kindly explaination and are ignored and redirected back, and have paragraphs of your data replaced with incorrect data, without discussion, for days.

I could have cried and gave up.

I coud have tried mediation, but he was soooo insistant on his title and definition and would not speak to me. And truly Subtractive color space, really does not exist. Subtractive color theory, mixing methods, etc. yes CMYK color space, yes, and it utilizes the principles of subtractive color to generate its gamut. RGB space, sure

So I gambled, and was scared, but really felt his page did not have enough valid data to work from, nor would he have allowed me to change a word of it.

Fine Redirect. He'll just redirect it back. Subtractive color

peace love, and yes it is a redirect under any other circumstance.--Dkroll2 22:46, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

Image:Pearl.jpg

Hi! Thanks for uploading Image:Pearl.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, – Quadell (talk) (help) 12:42, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

Jackass:_The_Movie

I just read you are a sucker for the nasty stuff :')... so I'd thought you might wanna have a go at this article which is improving step by step. - RoyBoy [] 04:23, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Ambon

Hi, were you the person who'd asked for any info on Ambon, and for whom I said I'd keep an eye out? In my West Papua research I'm going through Penders 2002 publication & come across some info for you -- because it's researched from the Dutch records & interviews it keeps coming up with a LOT of info not otherwise possible. page 196. of "The West New Guinea Debacle" published 2002. Contact me if you need a online copy.--Daeron 12:38, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Try http://www.papuaweb.org/dlib/bk/penders2002/03.pdf , email me if you need further contact. All Best :) --Daeron 02:41, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Coconut crab

I found one of our images under Coconut Crab.

Unfortunately the link pointed to an expired website so I have redirected it to the current one. I also changed your implicit permission to use to an explicit permission, which meant I had to put my name to it.

I hope the changes I have made are correct in the Wiki way of things.

L-Bit

Dugout canoe

Dugout Canoe same as with Coconut Crab

L-Bit

Reverting your talk page

I reverted GRider's message because he had spammed about 40 user talk pages with advertisement for a set of VFD votes, presumably because the people he was spamming had voted a certain way in the past. As you can see on my user talk page, my reversions made a lot of people mad, though my only motive was to keep userpages free of spam and VFD free of politics. I was certainly not trying to influence the outcome of the votes (about which I couldn't care less). User:Rdsmith4/Sig 21:27, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Recycling Troll

Let's be honest here. To date, one user with troll in their name has ever turned out good, and that user changed their name when it was pointed out that it could be construed as them being a troll. This user is stalking RickK from edit to edit and trying to get RickK's goat, as it were. When, after the 24 hour block, Recycling Troll took it to the mailing list and was roundly told to stop harassing RickK. He came back and repeated it. The account is new, and thus disruption blocks apply. Furthermore, the deliberately inflammatory username, editing style, and taking it to the mailing list suggest that we have someone who's been here before. I see minimal basis for an assumption of good faith here, and quite a lot of basis for the conclusion that this user is trouble who should be sent elsewhere. Snowspinner 03:40, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)

Recycling block

I unblocked because I thought the original reason given, the user name, was inadequate, since the lack of a consensus one way or another about names of this type has been around for a while now. With respect to the subsequent blocks, which are justified on a theory of causing disruption via stalking and harassment, I think some of the evidence would support that theory, but I have little interest in analyzing every last edit. So instead I defer to the judgment of others and decline to get involved further on the question of whether a block is appropriate. --Michael Snow 17:25, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

RC

The policy is quite clear; userids set up for the purposes of harassment or vandalism are blocked indefinitely. That said, what policy is it that you think I'm not following? Jayjg (talk) 21:24, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What "behaviour" are you talking about? Jayjg (talk) 21:36, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If you're talking about the Recycling Troll, I've never blocked him. Why do you think I have? Jayjg (talk) 14:52, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cleaning department

Hi, if you're serious about the "I am prepared to undertake almost any unpleasant and menial task that is requested of me", there are a number of things listed in Wikipedia:Cleaning department that need to have people sign up for them. Noel (talk) 02:20, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Recyling.

This is not the equivalent of "watching how your congressman votes and writing to them on every issue". The equivalent of that would have been checking RickK's contributions and writing volumes on his talk page. This was the closest wiki equivalent to following your congressman around in his daily life, and making your presence constantly known, while wearing a nametag that says "Hello, I am a criminal".

Secondly sir, if you continue to misquote me, the possibility of productive discussion is going to disappear very quickly. 'You may feel that the entire "policy" system is broken (your emphasis)...' is not what I said. I said "if X, then Y". If we cannot block people for things that would earn them the real-world equivalent of a block, then the "policy" system is broken. Remember that the so-called policy is not some immutable law handed down from on high. The rules exist solely because they are thought to improve the functioning of Wikipedia. When they stop serving that purpose, then we have the option of making up new ones. Sometimes we have to make them up in real time. To quote Jimbo (on a different subject, but still applicable): "If they want to play games with us, fine. This is Calvinball -- we make up the rules, so we win." [5] (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-February/019013.html)

Additionally, the police (in the US, anyway) can arrest and detain you temporarily without charging you if they have probable cause. Probable cause in this case included imitating a hard-banned troll well enough to fool one arbitrator, stalking another user (that RickK is an admin is immaterial), and yelling very loudly through his username "I am a troll".

Do not think I blocked this person on a whim. I do not block people often or lightly. While I may yet be convinced that The Recycling Troll should not be blocked, the only mistake I'm going to feel I made was opening myself to criticism from people who think that Wikipedia is a game and that following the rules is the purpose of being here. -- Cyrius| 16:41, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

More schools on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion

As of March 25, 2005, there are an additional (6) articles listed for deletion under the POV notion that schools are non-notable (even though this is invalid reasoning as per the Wikipedia deletion policy). Please be aware that the following schools are actively being discussed and voted upon:

In response to this cyclical ordeal, a Schoolwatch programme has been initiated in order to indentify school-related articles which may need improvement and to help foster and encourage continued organic growth. Your comments are welcome and I thank you again for your time. --GRider\talk

Something that might interest you

crossposted, with apologies

A self-appointed clique calling itself the Wikipedia:Office of Investigations has empowered itself to decide who is a "problem user" who needs to be "dealt with", primarily through arbitration. Do you support this move, or are you worried about vendettas and bullying? Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Office of Investigations. —Charles P. (Mirv) 22:48, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

History of the Grand Canyon area

FYI: I started on an article on the human history of the Grand Canyon area. My plan is to expand this article a bit more, then make abridged summaries for the Grand Canyon and Grand Canyon National Park. What to emphasize in each summary is still an open question but concentrating on history in the canyon for the Grand Canyon article and history on the rim and elsewhere in the area at Grand Canyon National Park may be a good idea. A lead section is also still needed at History of the Grand Canyon area (another thing I'd like to wait on until the full history article is complete). Any help expanding will be greatly appreciated. :) -- mav 12:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Please vote to curb abuse of "conspiracy theory" in WP titles

Please consider voting at:

Wikipedia:Conspiracy_theory

to rename articles that use the pejorative term "Conspiracy theory" to denigrate the content of the article.

Do the titles of WP articles generally pass partisan judgment on the subject under discussion? Should they? BrandonYusufToropov 03:09, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Image Tagging

Thanks for uploading Image:Carpet.png. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Until a more informative tag is provided, it will be listed as {{unverified}}. Could you add a better tag to let us know its copyright status? If you made the image yourself, an easy way to deal with this is add {{gfdl}} if you're willing to release it under the GFDL. Alternatively, you could release it into the public domain instead, by adding {{PD-self}}. However, if it isn't your own image, you need to specify what free license it was distributed under. You can find a list of the tags here. If it was not distributed under a free license, but you claim fair use, add {{fairuse}}. If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images by posting to my talk page. If you do this, I can tag them for you. Thanks so much, ~~~~

Inclusions not Deletions

Are you an inclusionist? Can you take a look at the Talk on apartheid? There is a editor Jayjg that keeps trying to delete a factual 2-Word Inclusion. Thanks.6920923073 16:48, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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