User:142.177.etc

In the interests of wikipedia:accountability; see also [1] (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2003-March/009407.html)

User:EntmootsOfTrolls claims to be "142". No 142.177 IP has so far denied this.

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User:142.177.103.164, User:142.177.82.108, User:142.177.92.54, User:142.177.79.193

142 is a wikipedia user or users, whom some have claimed is the infamous User:24. Some have attempted to associate these IP addresses and identify them with a single person, a person who was banned from wikipedia; and recently named on the wikipedia mailing list. EntmootsOfTrolls is also probably the same person.

That named person has disclaimed involvement in all but a small subset of edits; in fact there is no credible way to conclude the following contributions from the above addresses were written by a single person:

• 23:01, 4 Jul 2003 Capital (economics) (copyedit, compatibility of theories)
• 22:55, 4 Jul 2003 Capital (economics) (links)
• 22:41, 4 Jul 2003 Capital (economics) (better chunking, accounting reform/scandals)
• 22:16, 4 Jul 2003 Capital (economics) (clarifications)
• 22:00, 4 Jul 2003 Child (copyedit)
• 21:57, 4 Jul 2003 Child (explaining redirect term)
• 21:29, 4 Jul 2003 Firm-specific human capital (fix) (top)
• 21:28, 4 Jul 2003 Firm-specific human capital (redirect to near-synonym, where explained)
• 21:25, 4 Jul 2003 Individual capital (copyedit, mild extension)
• 21:03, 4 Jul 2003 Individual capital (expansion to resolve dispute)
• 13:33, 5 Jul 2003 Instructional capital (framing; neutralizing)
• 13:04, 5 Jul 2003 Brand, flag and label (redirect to where debate is) (top)
• 13:03, 5 Jul 2003 Brand, flag, label (redirect to where debate is) (top)
• 13:01, 5 Jul 2003 Brand capital (redirect to where term explained) (top)
• 12:58, 5 Jul 2003 Intellectual capital (neutralizing; framing; update )
• 12:23, 5 Jul 2003 User:Mydogategodshat (please review, and standardize, that table!)
• 12:17, 5 Jul 2003 Permission marketing (proposed fix to table; including ethics topics)
• 12:09, 5 Jul 2003 Capital (economics) (integrated See also; removed ugly non-standard table with Extraneous Capitalization)
• 12:05, 5 Jul 2003 List of economics topics (links)
• 11:59, 5 Jul 2003 Child (link UNHDI)
• 11:53, 5 Jul 2003 UN Human Development Index (stub)

• 22:04, 12 Aug 2003 Prior Informed Consent (top)
• 21:55, 12 Aug 2003 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (uneven results)
• 21:45, 12 Aug 2003 UNCED (acronym)
• 21:41, 12 Aug 2003 International Court of Compliance (redirect specific concept) (top)
• 21:39, 12 Aug 2003 Climate Change Convention (other common name) (top)
• 21:37, 12 Aug 2003 Rio Convention (common name) (top)
• 21:31, 12 Aug 2003 Prevention of Disasters Principle (top)
• 21:23, 12 Aug 2003 Ecotopia
• 21:16, 12 Aug 2003 The Foundry (sociology meaning due Garreau)
• 20:38, 12 Aug 2003 Racism (Zionism (alleged))
• 20:33, 12 Aug 2003 Zionism (Stalin; slogan re: racism)
• 20:27, 12 Aug 2003 History of anti-Zionism (redirect to where text is going) (top)
• 20:25, 12 Aug 2003 Zionism and racism (moving history of anti-Zionism, this is about racism and one phrase's origins)
• 20:04, 12 Aug 2003 Talk:Zionism and racism (how is this a 'slogan'?)
• 18:42, 12 Aug 2003 Capital (economics) (what IC is, legally, if not economically) (top)
• 18:30, 12 Aug 2003 Intellectual rights (more robust terms) (top)
• 18:23, 12 Aug 2003 Intellectual property (more credible economists than Stallman, Barlow)

• 19:57, 19 Aug 2003 Wikipedia:Village pump
• 19:46, 19 Aug 2003 Wikipedia:Community case RK (RK censors talk files for political reason)
• 19:43, 19 Aug 2003 Talk:Slogan 'Islamofascism' (revert vandalism by User:RK - who has no right to censor talk pages but does so frequently for overt political reasons)
• 19:34, 19 Aug 2003 Talk:Slogan 'Islamofascism'
• 19:24, 19 Aug 2003 Talk:Slogan 'Islamofascism'
• 19:06, 19 Aug 2003 Talk:Common sense (top)
• 18:56, 19 Aug 2003 User talk:JoeM (fix spelling)
• 18:50, 19 Aug 2003 Talk:Zionist Occupation Government
• 18:49, 19 Aug 2003 Zionist Occupation Government (Lieberman)
• 18:43, 19 Aug 2003 Talk:Slogan 'Islamofascism'
• 18:39, 19 Aug 2003 Talk:Organization
• 18:36, 19 Aug 2003 Organization (three more links)

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moved from pump

On Wikipedia talk:What it thinks it is I find myself inadvertantly talking to hard banned user 142.177.etc. Surprisingly, mav condones my breach of Wikipedia protocol.
I'm happy to bow to the consensus of the Wikipedia community here, whatever it may be. Should I:

1. Continue to engage 142.177.etc in discussion
2. Move all of 142.177.etc's edits to user talk:142.177.etc
3. Revert all of 142.177.etc's edits
4. Essentially ignore 142.177.etc.
5. As one of the above, but additionally apply IP blocks.

You may confer... Martin 23:32 17 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Just view this as one last chance to reform this person. As soon as I see that 142.177 is up to his old tricks then I'll reinstate the hard ban. Call this an experiment. --mav 01:53 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Congratulations, mav, you got over this habit of reading "death threat" into the merely ominous - something User:RK and User:RickK have yet to do. Wales has fallen off the deep end, apparently, or is just bored of governing this place properly - you may have a real job of work to do to keep RK from running rampant now that he's proven to himself that he can get what he wants by constant whining, carping, lying and libel. Given his agenda I suspect it's a matter of days before it's obvious - you may want to gang up on him NOW before he gets his own gang together (fairly obvious from who backs him). - 142

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moved from pump

Wish I knew where to ask this question

Are all 142.177.?.? IPs hard-banned? I believe the user has returned....none of his actions so far have been detrimental that I can tell, but if I am supposed to block him I will do so. Can someone who knows more about the history of this let me know? Jwrosenzweig 22:54, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I think the individual you are talking about (142.177.19.200) is different from the 142.177.etc that is hard banned. It is seems 142.177.19.200 is ip142177019200.mpoweredpc.net while EoT (such as 142.177.82.204) is hlfx32-204.ns.sympatico.ca . I seem to remember that Tim blocked the entire range of sympatico halifax IPs that EoT was posting from, although I could be mistaken. Maximus Rex 23:29, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)

The currently blocked range is 142.177.71.0 to 142.177.114.0, which should be roughly the same as the Halifax section of Sympatico. I determined this range by trial-and-error, repeatedly calling the unix "host" command to find the edges. There are lots of innocent people using 142.177 IP addresses, please don't vilify them unnecessarily. -- Tim Starling 12:41, Jan 1, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks much for the information! It would be nice if this was easily available, though. When I saw the IP, it reminded me of the banned user....when I tried to find info about him, the only thing I discovered was his "user page", User:142.177.etc. That name, as you can see, vilifies anyone in the 142.177 range unecessarily....if I'm being chastised at all by Tim (and I can't tell if I am), all I can say is that Wikipedia needs to have a much easier way of describing for us who is banned and what the terms of their ban are. :) Based on that user page, all I could conclude was that anyone in that IP range should be considered a suspect. The last time I tried to talk to an anon in the 142.177 range, I was immediately chastised by other Wikipedians for trying to talk to a user who'd been hard-banned. I really don't intend to make anyone upset, so it would be nice if everyone agreed what I can and cannot do about 142.177 IPs, and about banned users in general. Thanks. :) Jwrosenzweig 17:18, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)