Talk:Vladimir Nabokov
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Just a note, that the bibliography is missing The Enchanter, and The Original of Laura (unpublished). There could be more, that's just from memory and a quick scan. Sorry I'm not just fixing it myself, very tired.
This entry should be disambiguated as there are at least two famous persons of that name (Vladimir Vladimirovitch Nabokov the author, and his father Vladimir Dmitrievich Nabokov, the politician). Unfortunately I am not sure how to do it without messing up things/links. Would anybody please help?
A reasonable way to do it would be to make Nabokov a disambiguation page with links to Vladimir V. Nabokov and Vladimir D. Nabokov as separate entries, then remove the redirect from Nabokov and make the existing Vladimir Nabokov link a redirect to the appropriate page... I'll try it and accept all the blame (and fame).
- A disambiguation page would inconvenience 99% of the people who got to it. Why not just add a note and a link at the bottom of this article about the world famous author, critic, and lepidopterist that will send the reader to an article about his less well known father? Indeed, why not write an article about his father first? And then just link it from the text of this article. A disambiguation page is overkill. Ortolan88
- I don't totally agree but being totally new to Wikipedia I will, of course, accept your advice and write something along these lines the next days.
And, what's more, I don't know how to handle russian names. A russian name should properly have a patronym in it e.g. "Vladimir Nabokov" is not quite correct without the "Vladimirovich" (or whatever). Is there a policy, rule etc. for this? Kosebamse
- I don't totally agree but being totally new to Wikipedia I will, of course, accept your advice and write something along these lines the next days.
- For authors at least, there is a clear optimum solution: Use the name under which they published, verbatim - even if it's a pseudonym (e.g. Mark Twain.) Alternate/expanded full names should be mentioned after the common name in the first paragraph of the article. Mkweise 21:47 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)
- I personally agree, but in fact the convention is to use the best-known name for the article title Mark Twain, but to start the article with the real name and then give the pseudonym. Odd, I think, but I just added a rule noting this to the Wikipedia:Manual of Style yesterday, since that is what has traditionally been done since well before I got here. It's usually better to stay with what exists that to do something that requires a lot of changes. Please join in the discussion at the Manual of Style talk page, though. I'm glad there's another person interested. There are a few of us, but always room for one more. Ortolan88
- Well, it's a question of choosing between absolutism and relativism :=). In this case, I think relativism (pardon the pun) wins the day. No one who has heard of the father will not have heard of the son; no one who not heard of the father will be looking for his page (still nonexistent). We can always add a disambiguation page later if anyone complains. (In that case, I think your suggestion of making it Nabokov is correct.) In the meantime, the policy on foreign names is in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (anglicization) and there's also a current discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual of Style. And, welcome to the Wikipedia. You'll find lots of discussions like this all the time. Your knowledge and interest will be welcome (as will your politeness). Ortolan88
I know that Nabokov used the anagram Vivian Darkbloom somewhere, but I have no idea where. It sounds like a really nifty factoid, but I don't know anything else about it. Can someone confirm/deny this and, if it's for real, include it in the article? Thanks! grendel|khan 04:56, 2004 Jul 6 (UTC)
- Vivian Darkbloom is a character in Lolita. And yes, her name is an anagram for Vladimir Nabokov. I think I heard she pops up in another work as well (possibly Ada).Bds yahoo 04:21, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Yeah, Vivian Darkbloom appears as the author of the appendix to Ada (in the versions of the novel that include it). Actually he's used plenty of different anagrams for his name, like Baron Klim Avidov (Ada), Adam von Librikov (Transparent Things), and others. --Shibboleth 01:10, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Don't forget the "Dutch painter" van Bock from Strong Opinions. —Anville 14:45, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hmm...shouldn't we have a disambiguation notice for his pops up top? Something like This article is about the author Vladimir Nabokov. For his father, the politician, see Vladimir Dmitrievich Nabokov. ? john k 12:59, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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Anyone in the US willing to contact Nikki Smith at Smith-Skolnik Literary Management to see wheter they could release a "low-res photo for web use" under GFDL or in the public domain, so we can improve the article? This is the right place to look, but they don't seem to have an email address. There are several snail mail addresses on the web and I have been given another one (which is not to be found on the web)... If someone wants to write a letter, leave me a note. --Glimz 18:07, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
Carrousel
Mention of Carrousel seems to have been removed in this edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vladimir_Nabokov&oldid=8745657&diff=8745642). Was this just a mistake, or was it removed as a suspected hoax? It's most certainly not a hoax. Of course I can't simply prove to you that I have a copy in front of me now, but you can see a copy of the second edition here (http://www.betweenthecovers.com/display.php?id=41537). (Yes, there were actually two editions; I have a copy of the first. And every copy I've heard of is numbered [!] "HC", so neither edition was "limited", although both were small.) Googling for "nabokov carrousel" may bring more evidence. -- Hoary 06:50, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC)
- That was my edit, and it looks like it was an error on my part. Feel free to restore as needed. By the way, thanks for all the good edits you've made on this and the other Nabokov related pages. --Arcadian 21:47, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Spoken like a . . . um, a gentleperson. As for the other edits, I'm glad to read that they went down well. Incidentally, I think we're soon going to run into problems of capitalization. Curiously, Manual of Style (titles) says nothing explicit about them, but its examples suggest to me that, for example, "The Vane Sisters" (with capital "S") is the way to go. Perhaps it would be better to sort this out before writing more articles for what are now red links within, for example, The Stories of Vladimir Nabokov; as it is, these links differ from those within Nine Stories. (NB I've no axe to grind here; actually I prefer the minimal use of capitals.) -- Hoary 01:44, 2005 Mar 14 (UTC) ...... PS I created an article for Carrousel, too. And now I'm off, to attend to the (very urgent) demands of the "real world". -- Hoary 02:48, 2005 Mar 14 (UTC)
And yet more books
Using Michael Juliar's Vladimir Nabokov: A Descriptive Bibliography and his 1991 "Updates" to this, I've added more books. Note that the contents of the two "Fialta" books really are different.
http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/works.htm gives a very simplified list of works. Juliar's 1991 "Updates" list(s) three posthumous (and perhaps unauthorized) Soviet books (A58, A60 and A61) that each contain material not previously published in book form. These deserve to be added to the article, but I don't have enough energy. Moreover, I'm not confident about inputting Cyrillic, and — contravening the spirit of Wikipedia, I know — I'm not going to input stuff that I presume (or merely hope) will be checked by others. Also, I think I remember reading that the more or less authorized Soviet/Russian publications continued after 1991. -- Hoary 11:32, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC)
Horst Tappe's photo of Nabokov
This version of the article (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vladimir_Nabokov&oldid=12373403) had the photo shown here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vladimir_nabokov_portrait.jpg), with the (boilerplate) comment that
- This is a copyrighted promotional photo with a known source. It is believed that the copyright holder has granted permission for use in works such as Wikipedia or, in the alternative, it may be used under the fair use provision of United States copyright law.
The photographer (whose name wasn't mentioned anywhere) was Horst Tappe. No evidence was given that Tappe (specified as copyright holder as well as photographer in Vladimir Nabokov: A Pictorial Biography) had authorized its use here, or, for that matter, that it was a promotional photo. (Offhand I don't know what it was for; I'd guess for one of the various magazine interviews with VN.) So I've replaced it with the older image. This was taken in 1936, and there's no mention of copyright in the "pictorial biography" (which doesn't mean that it's not copyrighted). -- Hoary 02:49, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC)
Copyright of Nabokov's works
Hoary: What's up with that copyright warning? Are you a lawyer entitled to decide what is a violation and what is not? If you feel you are, why link to that site at all? Just FYU, the Moshkow site exists since 1994 and is the most respected Russian online library. Is there a lawsuit related to Nabokov's material on that site? If there's none, your "warning" is just your personal opinion. Wikipedia is not a place for opinions, let alone legal opinions. Trapolator 04:43, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)