Talk:Virtue

Anyone got a reference for the 49 virtues? I never heard of them, and the highest Google reference is Wiki itself. DJ Clayworth 20:59, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Found it. http://www.covenantcenter.org/writings/gifts.htm DJ Clayworth 21:06, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

The page refered to seems to be an exposition of the teachings of a particular (and may I say obscure) branch of the christian church. If such teaching is the basis of the list in The Christian virtues (and it seems to be, with variations), then I suggest that the list be removed from Virtue. If the contributor wishes to put it into a seperate page (for example 'Teachings of the Covenant of Peace Church', then so be it. Several other articles linked fom the list also need to be reverted, in my opinion, for example Boldness. See my question to the contributor on User talk:Dbabbitt. Peter Manchester 23:25, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)
If I were to add The Ten Wisdoms of Apathyology to the article about wisdom, then my point might be better illustrated. I would consider that to be vandalism, however. Peter Manchester 23:44, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)
The choice of 49 (rather than 48 or 50) virtues, (7 for each of the 7 'Gifts of the Holy Spirit') seems to be motivated by a perceived need for numerical neatness (49 is a square number), and is therefore essentially arbitrary. How they arrived at each of the 49 particular virtues in order to make up the required number is anyone's guess. Peter Manchester 23:51, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)
The content in question has now been moved to Forty-nine charismatic virtues. Peter Manchester 00:16, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Nice work Peter. DJ Clayworth 14:16, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanx for the merciless editing, Peter. It is refreshing to see this ordering scheme finally put into some context. It makes it much easier to work on, too. I first saw these in a Bill Gothard publication in the early 90's and have been trying lately to find their origins. Preaching notes don't come with references. :-) Dbabbitt 13:22, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)


Who the fuck wrote "The word αρετη is derived from the Greek arete (αρετη)."??

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