Talk:Telepathy
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This article could do with some headings earlier on (to make a much shorter intro). Also the current intro section could do with a rewrite or with shifting around into other sections, as it contains lots of material which isn't central to telepathy IMHO. Ben Finn 20:30, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since I cannot put this on Talk:Telepathy cause it says my user id is blocked, and I dont want to put it in Telepathy cause I dont think it is of much revelance to the article, Ill put it here hoping someone else can put it on Talk:Telepathy:
In 1985, after Deborah Carthy-Deu won the Miss Universe contest, her mother told a Puerto Rican magazine that she used telepathy to help motivate her daughter.
Hope someone else can add that to the talk page or maybe they decide its good enough for the article.
Thanks and God bless you!
Sincerely yours,
I've moved your comment here, Antonio. I don't really get your explanation, though: if you can post on Talk:Main Page, then you can't be blocked! And sorry, but I don't know anything about the story you mention above, so I can't really comment on it. -- Oliver P. 00:45 May 7, 2003 (UTC)
I can only comment that I don't see how it is relevant in any way. I'm sure we could come up with a million examples of lots of people believing silly things, but that doesn't help describe the thing in an encyclopedic way. An example or two may not be out of place, but certainly it would be better to come up with a supporting example from someone more relevant than "Miss Universe's Mom", like a semi- serious researcher or something. LDC
In the context of the article:
"While the dream telepathy experiments results were interesting, to run such experiments required many resources (time, effort, personnel). Other researchers looked for more streamlined alternatives. These led to the so-called ganzfeld experiments, which have been most closely followed in recent times and have provided perhaps the strongest experimental evidence of telepathy to date; above chance by .05 percent."
an anonymous user inserted the following question:
"The probability of a coin toss turning up heads is .5; that is, if a coin is tossed 100 times it seems it should show heads one half of time (50) because there are only two possibilities. But in reality this rarely occurs. It is just as probable that the coin could show heads 100 times, 40 times, 60 times etc. because the .5 probability is for "each seperate" toss. What is .05 percent above chance?"
Given a run of 100 tosses of a fair coin, it is most emphatically not the case that all possible numbers of heads are equally likely. The probability of getting exactly 50 heads and 50 tails is the binomial coefficient "100 choose 50" divided by 2 to the 100th power, i.e. 100!/(((50!)^2)(2^100)), which is about 0.0796, i.e. a little more than 1 in 13 times on average. Even if that is small enough to say that it is a "rare" occurence, it is still true that this outcome is more probable than any other outcome. For example, the probability of getting 40 heads and 60 tails (or vice versa) is about 0.0108, or about 1 in 100 times on average. The probability of getting all heads (or similarly all tails) is extremely small, about 7.89E-31.
One should read/follow the chain of articles (the source material referred to in external links, not the Wikipedia articles) to find the analysis and strict meaning of the phrase ".05 percent above chance". Not being a statistician, I am hesitant to answer that. (But I do know enough about probability to calculate the probabilities of coin tosses.) I would understand the phrase to refer to the fact that data in the experiments had a higher "hit" rate than the expected value assuming random guesses (the equivalent of coin tosses). How significant the figure ".05 percent" is, again, I cannot say, not being a statistician. Grizzly 08:17, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Learning telepathy & chance
The humorous thing is: to learn telepathy, you first think of chance, and later realise, that it actually isn't. But it helps a lot developing!
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USA & USSR
Anyway, the US and the Russian did great efforts on getting telepathy, remote viewing and other stuff like this to work for them during the Cold War
ProClub 20:44, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Neurokinetics?
Nothing to do with Dyanetics- don't worry. The guy(?girl) who wrote the last paragraph of intro to Telepathy re: Einstein and Quantum/string stuff was dead on. I'm not willing to raise my head in the real quantum physics pages, but does anyone else out there beleve in the possibility of Heisenberg scale probability waves? The behavior of charged particles as a medium of transmission for subtle neurosynaptic disturbances? I'm hoping I can pass these ideas off to someone who can run with them. I haven't actually tested the game myself, but it's the best idea I've got, right now. Please don't hesitate to take my ideas and run. If they pan out that just means I'm not insane. I don't care who gets the credit. Wikipedia kicks ass.