Talk:States of Malaysia
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Negeri-negeri
I don't speak Malay though I lived in KL to the age of three, so I am guessing that negeri-negeri and wilayah-wilayah persekutuan are plural - if so I would have thought that negeri and wilayah persekutuan are more helpful to English readers and more natural in Malay when written with 13 and 3. --Henrygb 00:07, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Yes, the malay words are plural. However, it looks okay to me to use states (negeri) and federal territories (wilayah persekutuan) in this article. For what it's worth, I'm a malay working in KL for last 21 years. -- sabre23t 03:44, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Malacca vs Melaka and Penang vs Pulau Pinang
I note that the CIA's Malaysia Administrative Divisions map on this article shows the name of the states to be "Melaka" and "Pulau Pinang". However currently wikipedia has those names redirected to Malacca and Penang. Shouldn't we have it the other way around? -- sabre23t 03:23, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- My view is that Malacca and Penang are the names used by most English speakers around the world. This links to the two pages seem to confirm this, though this may be confusing cause and effect. The waterway between Malacca and Sumatra is usually called the Straits of Malacca. The Pulau Pinang state government seems to use http://www.penang.gov.my as its URL. But this is clearly a sensitive subject in Wikipedia, so I don't think that there is a definitive answer. In fact it doesn't matter too much so long as the redirects are set up and the initial line enables the casual visitor to know they are in the correct place. --Henrygb 17:29, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- TQ Henrygb for your view. I earlier had half a mind to revert the 161.142.10.27 edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Malaysia&diff=0&oldid=5207062) on Malaysia#States. I left it alone, created a #redirect and posted here. I think I'll leave a comment on Talk:Malaysia about this. -- sabre23t 09:22, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)