Talk:Sense
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People: I m not english speaker but i think "sense" derseves a desambiguation page. Sense is not only corporal senses, we say also "nonsense" for a silly thing, "commonsense" etc
EntmootsOfTrolls would have liked this article to be part of User:EntmootsOfTrolls/WikiProject Body, Cognition and Senses, which provides guidelines for articles on those topics, and seeks stronger cross-linkage and cross-cultural treatment of all of these topics.
This is a central article in that project. It seems that not all the other articles on the senses really fully explain their relation to other senses well - and often assume the biomedical model too much. Pain for instance had no links to pain control and mentioned no way to control pain other than drugs, saying that "drugs control pain". This is not good. We are not pushers. We have a lot of this kind of stuff to clean up.
how about dissecting the page into overview and links to the respective senses? i think there's already too much detail info in here...
ESP?
Should ESP be listed here?
If it's "extra-sensory", then it's by definition not one of the senses, isn't it? Even if it really existed, it would be listed somewhere else. I'd list it as a belief of its own, just like religions, and maybe with a link from pseudoscience. --Lee Daniel Crocker
I specifically wrote "physiological" senses in the opening sentence, to prevent people from trying to include ESP. It doesn't belong here, as this article defines a sense as having a receptor neuron, and a corresponding interpretive region in the frontal cortex. I think it can be safely said that ESP has neither. - MMGB
It should be mentioned somehow under perception. --LMS
That's a reasonable link, too, depending on how you treat perception.
Colour and Energy of Light
- different [visual] receptors are responsible for the perception of colour (the frequency of light) and brightness (the energy of light)
Can anyone support this claim? What I know about visual perception suggests that photoceptors do not divide nicely into those concerned with frequency and those concerned with color. If someone wrote this in light of the distinction between rods and cones they are sadly mistaken; cones as well as rods process "brightness". If no one can explain this, the passage is getting removed. --Ryguasu
- Read vision and visual perception - it's a lot more complex than just that.
Sense of being stared at
Should we mention the potential of a "sense of being stared at"? Research backing it is laid out at morphogenetic field. It's not widely accepted and we should say that, but it's rare that anyone actually proposes a new sense, so I am inclined to think it should be here.
Polarization of light
What about perception of polarization of light, by fish? Is there a one-word name for that?
Taste
The book "Fast Food Nation" lists a sixth gustatory flavour called "astringent". Presumably, this is the flavour of mouthwash and some medicines.
- I haven't found scientific info about this, only some "holistic" stuff. r3m0t 17:50, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Infrared light
I added something about pit vipers and boas and their ability to sense infrared light. Is their a name for this sense? Also, are their any other animals with this sense? CyborgTosser 17:46, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Isn't this just a sense of sight, developed for a slightly longer wavelength than humans? --Mintie 23:32, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Time
"Sense of time passing" is sometimes named as a sense, often in conjunction with (though not related to) balance.
Pain
As a common pleb, I have always thought that pain was an extreme manifestation of the other senses, and not as a separate sense. Imagine pressing a spike lightly against your skin. It may not be pain but you can feel it. Press harder, and it becomes pain. There's a grey area of discomfort between the feelings of touch and pain. Similarly with heat and cold, sound, light, balance (motion sickness etc.), even smell and taste (unpleasant tastes/smells such as strong chemicals). The article on Nociception, if I understand it correctly, states that there are specialised pain receptors (separate from those for touch and temperature), which seems to refute my idea. Either way I think it's a common enough (mis)conception that it could do with refutation/support in the main article. --Mintie 23:32, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Bacteria
"Magnetotactic bacteria build miniature magnets inside themselves and use them to determine their orientation relative to the Earth's magnetic field." What possible reason would a bacteria have for doing this? Is it just a quirk of evolution? --Mintie 23:32, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Other senses
As a half-serious suggestion, what about more ethereal senses such as the sense of morality or outrage? See for a laugh. Any other thoughts? --Mintie 23:32, 22 May 2005 (UTC)