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Changed link from media to singular medium page. --Daniel C. Boyer
Umm... How's coloured pencil a painting medium. Paints are usually wet. Unless you drop it in water, a coloured pencil isn't.
- user:zanimum
Hello... can anyone look at this article to put in their two cents?
As I've nagged before coloured pencil a painting medium. Paints are usually wet. Unless you drop it in water, a coloured pencil isn't.
I help run a public exhibit space in Brampton, Ontario called Artway, and we have a drawing in colour exhibit, as well as a painting exhibit. If anyone told us coloured pencil was a painting medium and tried to exhibit their art in the wrong show, we'd look at them weirdly, because by no means is it a painting medium. The result do look like acrylics or pastels, but they certainly aren't true paintings. - user:zanimum
- I agree with you completely, and will take it out. You could have taken it out yourself, though - be bold in updating pages! --Camembert
Searching for Still life (is that the correct word??) what I'm missing here is a classification on subject, eg. Landscape, portrait, ... Regards Ellywa (http://www.nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Ellywa)
Defining the term "medium" as the vehicle by which pigment is delivered to a surface should easily qualify the colored pencils as a painting medium. Pencils put pigment on canvas. Wetness or dryness are irrelevant; one often talks about pastel paintings, pastels can be both wet or dry, and can come in sticks, powders, and pencils. Crayons, too, can be considered a painting medium, as they are a kind of wax based pastel. Shoehorn
My two cents: Leaf through any issue of The Artist's Magazine and you will notice that both graphite and pencil crayon works are consistantly referred to with the word "painting". Practitioners in this area commonly use this terminology. I think the difference between a drawing and a painting both done in pencil is that the painting is more refined, a work of art, whereas the drawing may be unfinished or simply a means to informally record some scene. Reigh
coloured pencil works are referred to as 'paintings' when the colour saturates the page/canvas. the same applies to pastels. if the pencil is used to sketch or shade with, it is called a drawing. however, when applied thickly, in layers, or in a way that fully covers the paper, it becomes known as a coloured pencil 'painting'. Toeknuckles
I am not sure I understand what a common painting element is. Could someone explain why the list is titled that, instead of genre as I had it originally? I would have thought that painting elements would include such things as: focal point, linear perspective, emphasis, highlight, amount of detail, importance and placement of figures, point of view..., details about a specific painting, rather then groupings of painting types. Reigh
I changed it to "elements" because I did not feel genre was a good description of the list. One usually talks about genre in terms of art genres: painting is a genre of art, as is sculpture. But now that I think about it, I think "idiom" might be the best label, the portrait is a common painting idiom, as are landscapes, &c. Shoehorn
Fingerpainting is more of a style or method of application rather then a medium, isn't it? Reigh
- Yes, but according to the fingerpaint article, "fingerpaint is a kind of paint..." so it makes sense to list "fingerpaint" (though not "fingerpainting") as a medium (that's assuming that article is correct, of course). --Camembert
Why don't we list any painting styles from before the mid-1800's? Rmhermen 00:41, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC)
I removed the following section, which might be located if usefull in another article:
Dark Art Sweeps America
Prominent dark art artists have begun to emerge in paintings of the 21st century. One growing and masterful dark artist is Stephen Cheung, a student who has mastered the ways of Picasso and have drawn for many friends as well as competitions. His unique style of demonic art reflects the politcal turmoils of the 21st century. His inspirations have come from friends such as Jade and Christie.
If I had to speculate, I would guess that this 'dark art' section was posted by none other than Stephen Cheung himself.
Intro sequence and correct English terms
I'm unclear over the correctness of the intro sentence, Painting is the practice of applying pigment suspended in a carrier (or medium) and a binding agent (a glue) to a surface (support) such as paper, canvas or a wall., as I'm unclear about the correct English terms to use. Also note, that medium points a disambig, which hasn't any matching entry.
Q: Is there really distinction between (a) carrier or medium and (b) binding agent? In German, it's rather clear that a paint consists of Pigment, and Bindemittel (and optionally Füllstoff, = filler (?)). I'm looking for the term matching "Bindemittel" and I'd assume "binder" or "medium" (translated literally, it is "binder medium"). See also [1] (http://www.sinopia.com/paint.html).
Pjacobi 21:55, 2005 Jun 3 (UTC)
- From http://www.marilynfenn.com/glossary_materials.html
- "Binder: The material used in paint that causes pigment particles to adhere to one another and to the support; for example, linseed oil or acrylic polymer."
- "Medium (pl. media or mediums): In paint, the fluid in which pigment is suspended, allowing it to spread and adhere to the surface."
- I don't know how to clarify this in the article. I suppose it wouldn't have to be in the intro, but could be expanded in a more comprehensive section about paint
- However, the Wikipedia article paint says "There are generally three parts to a paint: binder, diluent and additives. However, only one of these components, the binder, is absolutely required. The binder is that part of the vehicle which eventually solidifies to form the dried paint film. The diluent serves to adjust the viscosity of the paint. It is volatile and does not become part of the paint film. Anything else is an additive."
- --Sketchee 22:06, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)