Talk:One Ring
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Ring Realm Question???
Not to be a gigantic dork but can someone pull out two towers and read the section at the end where Sam first puts on the ring. Doesn't it describe him as being thrust into a world that was not like his own where orcs are shadows or blahdy blah. I can't remember clearly right now and am not anywhere near the book.
Wouldn't that make this paragraph incorrect or at the least require some rephrasing?
"In Peter Jackson's movie trilogy, the wearer of the Ring is portrayed as moving to a shadowy realm where everything is distorted, but this cannot have been Tolkien's intention, or Bilbo Baggins or Frodo Baggins would surely have reported it. For cinematic purposes it was necessary to use a dramatic visual effect for the shadow world, but in the books Bilbo especially is clearly able to function perfectly normally while wearing the Ring."
HELP! The Ring and One Ring are redirecting to each other! -- Zoe
Uhoh... what's happened to the original text? I placed the article on the One Ring and was contemplating moving it to One Ring only I didn't get to before the software update... presumably someone else decided to make the move, only the article seems to have disappeared into oblivion along the path of a circular redirect! ~KJ
Circular redirects seem to make for confused editing. I think the script forgets to do redirect=no on one of the edit links, and you end up editing an article different from the one you thought you were editing. -- Anon.
Sorry, it was probably my fault. Half a mo' and I'll fix it. Ed Poor 16:18 Jul 23, 2002 (PDT)
- Is it secret? Is it safe? Yes, Gandalf! The Ring that was lost is now found: slippery devil, isn't it? Ed Poor
The Ring used to redirect to here - I've changed it to redirect to the disambiguation page at Ring because Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen sequence of operas is often shortened to "The Ring." [Forget what I wrote here before about redir The Ring straight to the Wagner entry - it's best left as it is] --Camembert
What is this "physically painful" bit? Is there a reference for this statement in the canon? --Tb 01:32 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- I think so, yeah, somewhere. Not sure if it's all elves though.
Err, since these are now real events, couldn't this use some links?
"Three Rings for the ELF-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them, In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie."
And lie and lie and lie. You get the picture.
I added some stuff about interpretations of the Ring. I think it should be pretty uncontroversial (e.g., that it can be compared to addiction, without suggesting that it was meant to be a symbol for addiction). Modify or revert it if you think it's bad.
I added that the ring was inspired by the Andvarinaut. That is something scholars seem to agree on.--Wiglaf 19:20, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I stuck in a "possibly" because I don't think we can say with such authority that anyway one specific thing inspired Tolkien. --[[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 19:53, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- It's alright by me. You should read the Saga of the Völsungs, if you haven't. I think some people are right in considering it *the* source of inspiration behind LOTR. --Wiglaf 19:58, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
In the interpretations section, I suggest adding something like this:
The Ring also has parallels to the Christian worldview by portraying a situation where "what is evil may not be used for good purposes". Tolkien acknowledged that there were elements of Christianity in the Lord of the Rings, and this is one of the big places it shows up. (Absent Tolkien's statement we might not connect this with Christian thought; but a lot of non-Christian religions and secular worldviews do not contain the idea that certain things are "evil" and absolutely cannot be used for good, even by people with good intentions.)
Destruction
There's no mention made at all of the Destruction of The One Ring here...shouldn't that be included? I think it's important and relevant and all that. Does it have a separate article? If so, it should be linked to from here somewhere. Cookiecaper 20:29, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Picture added
Hi everybody.
I just added a picture of the 'One Ring'. It's GNU FDL as I did it myself. Any feedback would be appreciated. Geraldstiehler 23:22, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)