Talk:Obotrites
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David -- where did you find Obotrites? Reuter uses Abodrites/Obodrites, and I've nver seen it with a 't' in the German sources? JHK
Google gives Obotrites 1420, Obodrites 148 and Abodrites 109 - but that could of course be others plagiarising from the CathEn: change it by all means if you're confident. I suspect it may be a hard "d" in German - but then this isn't German, and neither were they. User:David Parker
- COuld be -- I came up against them doing research, but this may be a case where I'm just more used to the scholarly stuff than the general. I defer to google -- except that most of the ones I saw are all from sad people tracing back their royal heritage...strangely enough, none of my relatives show up on those web sites, and they haven't been dead nearly as long! JHK
Old version fuer Thueringer is Dueringer, which is the way it is still pronounced in Thueringen. d=t p=pf t=sz or ss etc etc all goes back to sound shift, which many Germans newer followed the High-German sound shift in their local language.Even when it is tough and written in High German as Mutter (mother) it is still pronounce Mudder, Mudda, Mutta, Muttje, Muttche and various other ways.
- Thanks for more unedifying information. We all know that d=t, if you read the discussion and actually understand it. Again, you missed the point. We were discussing usage, and what is more common to English speakers. <sigh> JHK