Talk:Nefertiti
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Nefertiti's Bust
The following text has been moved here from Talk:Nefertiti bust. See below for the Nefertit talk section.
- I saw this bust when it made the rounds in the US way back when. It had an article with it describing how Tutmose was commisioned to carve it. Nefertiti sat for him a few times, but then he was left to finish it without her needing to be present. The finished piece was overdue and all inquiries were answered with a response something like, "It's almost ready." After some time, a detachment was sent to investigate. They found Tutmose had constructed a shrine for the scultpure and was on his knees worshipping it. However, I haven't been able to find any information that even hints at this event. Does anyone else have any information on this? Can we post what I wrote just from memory (and, therefore probably contains some errors)? —Frecklefoot 16:16 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- What does "Found in his workshop" mean? Who found it, and what happened to it then? -- Zoe
- It was found in a ruined building in the deserted city of Amarna in 1912, by a German archaelogical expedition. The building was identified as Tutmose's house/studio based on a item with an owner's name and job title on it found in a rubbish pit - since it gave his occupation as "sculptor", and the building was clearly a sculpture workshop, it seemed a logical connection. The head was found on the floor of a storeroom. As was standard practise in those days, as a find it belonged to the expedition, and it was taken back to Berlin where it has remained ever since. (Come back please, Zoe!) Noel 18:55, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- Does this need to be a separate article? Nefertiti's bust should be discussed in her article, and I can't think of anything that could be said about the bust that wouldn't fit into the article on Nefertiti herself. If there is a good reason to have this as a separate article, let me know; otherwise, I'll redirect it in a few days... -- Oliver P. 17:12 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- No, go ahead and redirect it. I thought the story (up top of this page) was enough to make it a seperate article, but I can't find any evidence of it on the Internet, so I don't want to include it since I can't provide any evidence. So, go ahead and redirect it. —Frecklefoot 18:55 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Here ends the moved text. -- Oliver P. 20:07 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Nefertiti
I've removed the statement that Nefertiti was Tutankhamun's aunt. I've never heard this. Does anyone know where it came from? -- Oliver P. 23:16 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)
From The Columbia Encyclopedia (http://www.wikipedia.org), Sixth Edition, 2001 for instance:
- Nefertiti ... , queen of ancient Egypt; wife of Ikhnaton (XVIII dynasty) and aunt of Tutankhamen. She seems to have been divorced by Ikhnaton late in his reign..
Egil 23:22 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)
Interesting! Does it clarify how she is his aunt? By marriage to Akhenaton or by blood? On Tutankhamun's father's side, or mother's side? I think we have to treat this claim with caution, given that no-one agrees on who Tutankhamun's parents were, let alone his aunts and uncles! Ancient Egyptian genealogy is all a bit of a mess, unfortunately... -- Oliver P. 23:45 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)
There's some material here that ought to be in other pages - in particular, we ought to have a separate page for Tadukhipa. But let's not add too much about Akhenaten's reigm etc here - there are other pages for that.. Noel 21:48, 19 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I moved the Tadukhipa bio details to a separate page for her. Next step is to move some Akhenaten material to his page. After that we can try and get each page to more accurately show the current range of scholarly theories about them. Noel 20:09, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Nefertiti found?
Far too much attention is given to Nefertiti found? and Joann Fletcher's "announcement". I won't go so far as to say that her claims have been debunked, but she has very little evidence of substance to back her claims. I have added links both in support and in disagreement with her claims.
- Fab 22:21, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)