Talk:Matura
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Is the term Matura used anywhere other than in Austria? This article doesn't make it clear. Until disambiguation is required, I think this article can be safely housed at Matura rather than at Matura (Austria). -- Oliver P. 14:26 26 May 2003 (UTC)
- I don't know, this is why "the article doesn't make it clear". This is also why I called it Matura (Austria), just to be on the safe side -- so that the need to make it clear doesn't arise in the first place. Now, however, after it has been renamed, this question is of course open to speculation.
- "Reifeprüfung" (the German title of the film The Graduate) is the literal translation of "Maturitätsprüfung", and I think that's what the exam used to be called in the good old days. "Matura" is the colloquialism everyone uses. -KF 15:22 26 May 2003 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say that "Matura" is colloquial. In Austria, "Matura" and "Reifeprüfung" are used interchangeably, and I don't see a tendency towards one of the two terms. After all, Latin "maturus" means "reif" (mature). -- David Haardt, Austria
- Okay, thanks for the explanation, and sorry, I didn't mean the lack of clarity remark as a criticism of your writing. If there are other uses of the term, I hope someone else will move the page back later and put a disambiguation page in its place. -- Oliver P. 16:04 26 May 2003 (UTC)
- It would be interesting to find out what the final exams are called in Switzerland. Generally, I think we should adopt a comparative approach (first within the EU, then for the rest of the world). In other words, we should clearly state what entitles you to go to university (or any other forms of tertiary education, for that matter) in each country. There is also the question of nostrification (or whatever it is called) of certificates/academic degrees. Oh God, it looks like a very complex matter. --KF 16:20 26 May 2003 (UTC)
- In Switzerland, the terms "Maturität", "Maturitätsprüfung", and "Matura" are used for the school leaving examination (see http://www.bbw.admin.ch/html/pages/bildung/matur/matura-e.html ). In Germany of course, "Abitur". -- David Haardt, Austria
Continuing a discussion after exactly one year:
"Matura (official term: Reifeprüfung) is the word commonly used in Austria, Croatia, Hungary, Slovenia and Switzerland for the final exams young adults (aged 18 or 19) take at the end of their secondary education, usually after 12 or 13 years of schooling."
This is the new introduction. However, let me state again that while it is of course a good thing to mention all those countries, the text of this article only applies to Austria (and actually only to a particular type of school referred to as gymnasium (not to commercial or technical schools, where the final exams are also referred to as Matura). <KF> 18:05, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
For sure, it is how the exam is called in Poland. I think some info should be added about Matura in Poland and I hope I'll find some time to do it. Zbihniew