Talk:Liliuokalani

Template:Move as per Wiki convention for naming of a sovereign monarch Mowens35 22:34, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• I am a caucasian American who has the deepest respect and admiration for Her Majesty Queen Lili'uokalani of Hawai'i. I believe that the independence of the Kingdom of Hawai'i was boldly stolen by the United States of America on 17 January 1893. It is my opinion that Hawai'i should still be an independent and sovereign nation. Yet because of monetary considerations, that will never come to pass. I have heard some talk of allowing Hawai'i to become a kingdom once again, while remaining within the union of the United States of America. There are some U.S. states which are not "states" at all! For example, Pennsylvania and Kentucky are each deemed to be a "commonwealth". So there is no reason why one our states cannot become a kingdom, while remaining in the union.

• • That would take a constitutional amendment. The US Contitution requires each state to have a republican form of government. Alphaboi867 20:06, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• • I am in favour of such a move, which would continue to protect the security of our country, while respecting the wishes and aspirations of the Kanaka Mahole, the native Polynesian people of Hawai'i. For too long, they were discouraged from speaking their language or celebrating their culture. At the very least, I believe that the United States Postal Service should issue a postage stamp in honour of Her Majesty Queen Lili'uokalani of Hawai'i. She was a remarkable lady, who championed the cause of her native Polynesian people. Many people are not aware that Her Majesty favoured the rights of women, in an era when such an idea was unheard of. She was elegant, cultured, and extremely well educated. One needs only to read her autobiography [ "Hawaii's Story, By Hawaii's Queen" ] in order to appreciate this facining lady.

• • The American Nation has trampled upon the rights of her native peoples for centuries. We have [in some small ways] tried to make amends to some of the Native American Indian Tribes. Yet we have done nothing to make such amends to the native people of Hawai'i. The entire history of the United States has been aimed toward pursuing a higher and loftier goal. It is time that we applied that pursuit to the better treatment to the indigenous people of our "Fiftieth State". We could begin by honouring Her Majesty Lili'uokalani Kamaka'eha, The last Queen of Hawai'i.

• You might want to check out the article on the Hawaiian sovereignty movement. I'd like to hear more about the specific objections people have to Hawaiian sovereignty — I'm not very familiar with the objections — so the article can be molded into something more balanced. --Farinas 15:31, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• agree. just putting it at the current moment is disrespectful. either name the article Queen Lili'uokalani of Hawai'i or Lili'uokalani, Queen of Hawai'i. Empress Michiko of Japan is also not listed as Michiko or Michiko of Japan, because you need a deeper description of what that person was... Antares911 14:00, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Royal consorts and monarchs

hi there. i´m trying to get a discussion going to change the rules on naming consorts, monarchs, etc.. it´s a bit of mess at the moment. maybe you wanna join in and give your opinion? feel free [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28names_and_titles%29#Royal_consorts_and_monarchs) cheers Antares911 23:44, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)