Talk:Iditarod
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Please explain "tethering" as used in this article. SatTrack
Is the race trail fixed? It was my understanding that the 2003 race was moved further north because of lack of snow. -- Zoe
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Negativity
Isnt this article a bit negative towards the object in question?
Please rewrite all or part of this entry!!
It's obvious that someone from PETA composed the above description. Please see that at least something objective is added here. (This message was posted to the main article by 68.6.185.180 and was later moved here.)
NPOV
I agree that this article is shameless grandstanding by an animal rights advocate. Definitely not neutral. Rsduhamel 21:41, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
More NPOV
In checking the history of this article I found that anonymous editor 205.188.116.146 deleted the original article when he/she added his/her negative monologue. I put the original material back into the article and put a "Controversy" heading before the negative material. Rsduhamel 22:14, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Fixed?
What is the consensus on this article? Is it fixed or does it still need work?
It looks fixed to me. If no one says anything here in a week, and it's still marked NPOV at that time, I'll change it. --Dbenbenn 17:22, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Controversy
This section is definitely NOT fixed. As written, this section implies that deaths and injuries happen all the time, which is not exactly accurate, especially given the repetition within a short space of the same information. It also uses loaded language in the phrase, "dogs are forced to run" -- anybody who has ever seen sled dogs knows that the problem is that they will not stop when you want them to, and they'll take off as soon as they can get away with it --they LOVE to run. They've been bred for it. While it is true that injuries and usually one or more deaths (though not always) happen each race, given the number of active, working dogs, and the time span, the number of injuries and deaths is not extraordinary. This section would be better served by describing the controversy and the parties involved, and how the anti-race movement developed as a result of some real problems early on. One example is the man who, back in the early 90s, I think, beat a dog to death. The man was banned from the race. I can do some research on the controversy itself and come up with some language. Deirdre 01:02, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Is the race actually 1150 miles? That fact should be stated in the main section of the article. And if you put the length somewhere else, you could take out the "dogs are forced to run" wording. --Dbenbenn 00:02, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
There are two routes, a southern and northern route. The northern route is taken in even-numbered years, and is 1036 miles, according to the race website; the southern route is taken in odd-numbered years, and is 1131 miles. This includes the distance from Anchorage to the site of the re-start, usually in Wasilla. So, actually, it varies, and isn't quite as long as indicated in the disputed text. The Yukon Quest, another long-distance race, is 1026 miles. Deirdre 20:04, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I added the length to the top of the article, though the two routes should be mentioned somewhere. I took the length bit out of the Controversy section. It's now a stub-section, which could be expanded as you outlined above.
- Also, I'm confused about the image caption. The original 1925 route was only 25 miles long, "near Anchorage". It didn't go from Anchorage to Nenana. So what does the gray line depict? --Dbenbenn 00:52, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Also, what's with the sentence
- Then a series of dog mushers took it overland a total of 260 miles in 127-1/2 hours.
- Were they that consistent, with the 1/2? How about saying "5 days"? --Dbenbenn 02:46, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
When the original serum delivery happened, the diptheria serum was taken by train from Anchorage north, to Nenana, I think, but I'm not positive. From there, it went by dog team relay to Nome. Still, that first part was in the original run, and so is commemorated via the start in Anchorage and then the restart.Deirdre 01:08, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
First non-American?
In the section for "firsts" (first to win 4 times, first woman to win, etc), wouldn't it be interesting to note that Robert Sorlie in 2003 was the first non-American to win? Being Norwegian myself, I'm biased, so I figured I'd ask for second opinions on it first before adding. – Rafiki (talk) 08:57, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Definitely. (I added it as part of my recent expansions; he still needs an article though, and you can probably read his website better than I :) 68.81.231.127 18:05, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
2005 Iditarod updates in a separate article?
Wouldn't all the updates and details about this years Iditarod be better put in an article on its own, and just linked to from this, the general Iditarod article? Say, make an article called Iditarod 2005, and put all the stuff in the section 2005 Iditarod XXXIII starts etc in there. I just think this article can be very long if it should contain all these details as the run progresses... And the next year, and, so on ;-) Shanes 03:03, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I was resisting that until the race was over... but I think the quick note at the top works well if someone comes looking for current information. Please, feel free to contribute :)
- At least this article is no longer 59 kb :). I still have to add sections on the volunteers, the Iditarod as a business, hazards, and strategies; expand some sections; and then eliminate redundancies, check against other sources, straighten out the references, and then copyedit everything. But even if I split out the list of winners as well and try to pare down the route section, the article is still quite long. The problem is, nothing else seems to justify a separate article. I'd be interested in hearing any suggestions. 68.81.231.127 04:40, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)