Talk:IBM PC compatible

Aren't PCs that are compatible with IBM PCs called "IBM compatible PCs (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22IBM+compatible+PC%22)" more often than "IBM PC compatibles (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22IBM+PC+compatible%22)"? (Links are to Google tests to support my point...) -- Oliver P. 17:46 5 Jun 2003 (UTC)

That's a good question. I know that I've heard the term "IBM compatible PC" many times but I've never heard the term "IBM PC compatible" until now. I will move the page in a few days if no-one objects.

Acegikmo1 08:35, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

You know, I think Oliver P. is right. Go for it. However... is it

IBM compatible PC (no hyphen)

or

IBM-compatible PC (with a hyphen?)

Doesn't matter to me as long as both are created and one redirects to the other.

Of course, other terms in common use. The "IBM" dropped out fairly soon. I remember being extremely annoyed when the phrase "PC" came to mean the specific IBM architecture. Other terms at various times were "PC-compatible" and "PC clone." Jerry Pournelle frequently used the neologism "PCompatible" (or was it "Pcompatible" in his column, but it never caught on—perhaps because nobody had a clue how to pronounced it. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 10:36, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

P.S. The misspelling "compatable" is extremely common and perhaps justifies creating another bunch of redirects if we don't have them already. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 10:37, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

PC-compatible might be a regional thing. I remember "IBM compatible" being equally common. --24.114.252.183 00:29, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Contents

1 Wintel 2 Vandalism 3 Apple 4 What about IBM PC compatable servers?

Wintel

I think that the statement that WinHEC is giving marching orders to hardware vendors, is a little inaccurate, Microsoft steers the general direction of PCs. But I would hardly call it marching orders. Microsoft hasn't offical supported AMD64 (at least not yet), but AMD was free to make it's 64bit processor. PPGMD

I like the latest edit, it shows more properly the control MS has over hardware. They have control, but not total control. PPGMD

I was about to say... OK, maybe "marching orders" goes too far, but "guidance" doesn't go nearly far enough. To say that Microsoft only provides "guidance" is literally true, but it's sort of like saying that a traffic cop only provides "guidance" to motorists. How about an opportunity "to lobby for and in some cases dictate the pace and direction of the hardware side of the PC industry," which is language I got from Mark Hartman at ExtremeTech (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,42201,00.asp).

Thanks for your agreement. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 17:53, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Vandalism

Any of you noticed that in the following sentence

Simultaneously, many manufacturers such as Xerox, Digital, Sanyo, and Wang introduced PCs that were...

wtf? how did that make it there without anybody noticing?! I am pretty sure that Wang is not a brand name in any country, and certainly not a manufacturer of PCs 20 years ago. Therefore I'm removing that term. — LegolasGreenleaf 03:02, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

See http://www.digidome.nl/wanghall.htm for details of some Wang computers. HungryHorace 13:59, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The youngins are taking over. Never heard of Wang computers... wow. If you'll excuse me, I have to yell at some damn kids to get off my lawn.

Apple

The article contains an unattributed claim that Apple had a "50% marketshare" and that IBM's PC was a response to the Apple II. My general feeling has always been that Apple has always had a fairly small market share, though it does have significant influence in the market. I'd like to know where that 50% figure came from, especially with the TRS-80, Commodore, etc. in the same market at the same time.

Probably best to remove it until the statistic can be verified.--24.114.252.183 21:30, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

What about IBM PC compatable servers?

I think it is worth noting that many non-PC computers today are IBM PC compatables. Just about any x86/AMD64 based server for example.

WikianJim 12:47, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)