Talk:Hieronymus Bosch

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Is it The Garden of Earthly Delight or The Garden of Earthly Delights? Both citations are used.

As far as I can tell both are after the fact titles not used in Bosch's own time. I assume as long as it's clear from context what work you are talking about, either title would be acceptable. -- Infrogmation

From what I read, the title is later. When received in El Escorial, it was noted as el de los madroņos, "the one of the strawberry trees (Arbutus unedo)"

Portrait of Bosch

I lifted the portrait from the nl version of the article which describes it as "Een zelfportret", so I assumed it was a self-portrait. If someone has info that this is not the case, please share it. -- Infrogmation 16:05, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC) david

The impressing drawing is certainly not "een zelfportret" but at best a portrait drawn decades after Bosch's death. It stems from a compendium titled Recueil d'Arras (around 1560, Arras, Bibliothčke Municipale) which includes 275 drawings compiled by Jacques Le Boucq. The portrait of Bosch is captioned Jeronimus Bos painctre. Jacques Le Boucq, Herald at Arms and King of Arms to Emperor Charles V, who drew several portraits of his collection himself, could impossibly have known Bosch because he was much too young. Whether he worked on an original drawing by Bosch, seems to be more than doubtful. We should keep in mind that Bosch had become extremely popular already during his lifetime. In the middle of the 16th century an astonishing number of imitators - among them Pieter Bruegel in his earlier years - were active in playing their role in the Bosch-myth and, accordingly, the still growing Bosch-business. As someone wrote: "The myth created a market, the rush for his paintings generated the supply". In my opinion, exactly this was the case with the Arras-portrait, which was published in print in 1572 (although looking to the other side) by the widow of Bruegel's engraver Hieronymus Cock. --Peter Witte 20:10, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I forgot to note that the caption of the drawing in the article shouls better read: Alleged portrait of Bosch (around 1560). --Peter Witte 20:16, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Ship of Fools

Article needs information about Ship of Fools (painting). Kevyn 11:54, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Signature

I didn't bring my references, but his signature in several paintings reads Jheronymus Bosch. However everybody calls him by the regular Hieronymus.

Parody

His vision of Hell redux: AbuGhraib (http://screwthegovernment.com/images/bushAbuGhraibHellBig.jpg).

Wasn't the painting 'Garden of Earthly Delight/s' destroyed in a warehouse fire at Heathrow a year ago or so (as recently revealed?). Or am I confusing that with something else?

Oh, a couple of useful links maybe: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/A871391 (public domain?) http://www.artchive.com/artchive/B/bosch.html

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