Talk:Doctor of Philosophy
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In the modern world, it indicates an individual who went back to school because they were unable to get a real job. Typical PhDs do not like this pointed out in public, and tend to edit out comments such as this one.
- Riiggght.
- Hmmmmmmmmmmm Jackliddle 03:17, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Omitted the above. :-)))
(My Ph.D. was awarded only after I was sufficiently motivated, by Jimbo, to finish the dissertation; my finishing was a condition of my employment and got me a raise. So there!)
Hey, all the above being said, the article should probably contain some information about the notion of the perpetual student and the envy and contempt of overeducated people on the part of some other people, such as the person who wrote the above. The page should also probably be located on Doctor of Philosophy. --Larry Sanger, Ph.D.
Mention should perhaps also be made of the contempt of undereducated people on the part of some Ph.D's ! ;-) --Seb
Ahem -- I worked "real jobs" and taught while working on my PhD. I've worked in Telecom, dotcoms,and regulatory jobs, as well as food service and other crap money jobs. i have a PhD because it's a prerequisite for teaching at a university level and pretty useful for competing to teach at community colleges. Many of the people I went to grad school with also have similar real world experience. I suggest that the person above may not know his ass from his elbow, and my need anal-cranial separation therapy...JHK
Ph.D's don't exist just in english speaking countries - it's used all over the world. Local variants are commonly translated to Ph.D when they are comparable with the international convention. I didn't change the article because I didn't know how to refrase it properly. --Tbackstr
I think in other countries they are usually just called "Doctor", abbreviated as Dr., or "Doctor of medicine", "Doctor of natural sciences" etc. The general use of the Philosophy label is only used in English speaking countries I believe. By the way, do engineers get a Ph.D.? --AxelBoldt
I know that with some luck I'm going to get my Ph.D or D.Sc. (Doctor of Science) in a few years in a non-english speaking country (Finland). However, the question of which one I'll get, Ph.D. or D.Sc., is still a bit diffuse for me, since I'm an engineer. Tbackstr
Since you're a Wikipedian the following doesn't apply to you.....
- PhD students, in moving up in the educational ladder have to narrow their fields to increase their depth of knowledge on a subject. Learning more and more about less and less, they eventually end up by knowing everything about nothing! (;-P) firepink
Would it be worth splitting the information up into more regional sections? A lot of the current stuff is slightly inaccurate when applied to the UK, for instance. cferrero
Perhaps. Also to be considered is that grad student and this article have a lot of overlap in content (although not authorship) and should perhaps be reworked concurrently? --zandperl 02:12, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Disputation
I added a description here yesterday on the procedure of a Swedish doctoral disputation. Today somebody added "and Egypt" to this text. It is quite possible that Egyptian universities have the practice of a public defense, but is really the procedure and terminology identical? Unless this can be corroborated, I will remove Egypt from the present context. / Tupsharru 11:46, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Comparative balance of research and coursework at dissertation stage internationally: explanation suitable to laypeople
I moved this from the PhD page proper, thinking it was more proper to the talk page: "This article failed to explain in layman's language the difference between a PhD by Research and one where it involves a lot of course work In the US, it is PhD by rigid coursework and research for dissertation; in Germany, Japan and Canada is it by rigid PhD by research with chosen coursework??? PLease it will be nice if you can work on this." --(moved by)EuropracBHIT 03:51, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC).
Well???
after reading all the negative I am shocked! I am holdin a Ph.D d. Master in Indust. Psych. and it took a long time hard work and I am not sorry for it! So anyone who wants to go for it...you do need a brain ;-)))) not just words! [Comment at 19:56, 1 Jun 2005 by User:217.185.243.9 ]