Talk:Carlo Giuliani
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Gianfranco, you write "no demonstrators charged with homicide - No firebombings in the square ever"; but the demonstrators who came forward to testify about his death have in fact been charged with attempted homicide, and the Piazza Alimonda have been firebombed twice. See http://www.italy.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/142458.php for the firebombing; and http://www.italy.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/124937_comment.php#128409 for the statement on the Genoa Legal Forum about the demonstrators charged with attempted homicide. Doctors were not forbidden to help him, but the confusion and chaos that surrounded the situation and the continuing clash did prevent doctors from being able to immediately tend to him.
- Well, I'm not going to discuss the eventual prestige of indimedia. For what we have to consider here, it's not a neutral source. It gives meaning to the otherwise theoretical "right of speech" and "freedom of expression". But it self-defines as "revolutionary".
- Unless you are going to enrich my knowledge, it is the only source for this news.
- After this point, let me please note that in Italy we have an increasing attention (already a deep general interest) for no-global movements and their ideas. This means that the general opinion and feeling is not against them, as the wide popular support for the last peaceful meeting in Florence showed. And the "anti-no-global" Oriana Fallaci, who is often indicated as a "serious" commenter, remained quite alone and in practice lost most of her reputation with her last disconcerting comments.
- Given all what above, and adding that we have several national newspapers and TV-news openly supporting no-global campaigns, I can actually see no danger of censorship (or false covering) on these themes, and I can see instead that some no-global themes are starting to be unexpectedly shared with extreme-right and governmental politicians too.
- In all this, I never read - anywhere, and I read a lot - of those firebombings. I have read instead many stories about what single "Genovesi" had to suffer after the incredible G8 days. For instance, let's consider how are now living those many little shop-keepers or artisans that lost their principal familiar patrimony, set on fire or otherwise vandalised during the guerrilla. This too deserves a mention, I believe. But not one word has been spent on this.
- Then, my friend, let's balance the whole: please add more neutral sources for your contribution, and we'll all have the common interest to add them to the article. On my side, I'll check them very easily and I'll be glad to verify their correctness.
- On a more general reflection, I can't tell if it's really fair, for the same memory and basic respect of himself, to make a martyr of Giuliani, who died in a situation of which he clearly wouldn't today be proud of, if the story had another ending. There is moral sufference on all sides, let's not forget that a young boy too, was forced to have his life forever conditioned by that damned afternoon. I clearly remember the "net's voice", in the following evening, that I hope you can check on Google's usenet archives.
- This is why I'm sure we won't use tendencial arguments here in the Wiki, using instead our usual objective style. --G