Talk:Astronaut
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If anyone wants to fill in more biographies have a look at the public domain astonaut biographies at,
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/astrobio_former.html
--Imran
The list of astronauts/cosmonauts is getting awfully long now more and more biographies are added, and as the text part of this article has grown significantly it makes the article very long. I would suggest to move the list into an alphabetical "List of astronauts" page, maybe also one "List of astronauts by selection group", and only put the links on bottom of this page instead. andy 15:14 Mar 20, 2003 (UTC)
- Sounds good. And maybe "astonauts by nationality" or some other way to emphasis those not from the U.S. or Soviet Union/Russia. Rmhermen 16:05 Mar 20, 2003 (UTC)
- I just started with the List of astronauts by selection, still very incomplete. andy 23:28 Mar 20, 2003 (UTC)
The International Astronaut section is a mess. First we list a four member 1977 class of ESA astronauts for Spacelab-1 when List of astronauts by selection list a three member class in 1978 and only one of them flew on that mission. Also we say that the Italian astronauts were merged into the ESA ones but we never list there being any Italian astronauts before then. It would be nice to have a statement of how many countries have sent people into space. Maybe a listing of the year each countries first astronaut flew? Rmhermen 18:51, Oct 15, 2003 (UTC)
- The selection history is a mess because it is a mess :-) Most international selection where for just one mission - one flight opportunity and then usually two astronaut candidates get into training. France, Germany, Japan and Canada (maybe Italy as well, I am not sure) however did create actual astronaut teams when more regular mission participation was planned. But I don't have that many details, I can only give more detailled information on the german astronauts. Actually I planned to write about them for a long time already... andy 19:00, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- I found the missing 4th person from the first ESA selection group. Still don't know why we have two different years listed. Rmhermen 19:06, Oct 15, 2003 (UTC)
Only the English/'international' astronaut terms should be bold-emphasized; other emphases should use italics, to preserve overall visual clarity.
- Wernher 10:47, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)
May I suggest a standard information block (as for missions) for each astronaut with his or her own page? I just put an example on Guion Bluford's page. What have I missed? Country of origin? Other important fields for the info block? Comments encouraged! -- Ke4roh 03:06, 9 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- See also the example block on Neil Armstrong's page. -- Ke4roh 03:01, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Just wondering what FAI is supposed to stand for. I don't think that the Federación Anarquista Ibérica (Iberian Anarchist Federation) is the group who defined space flight... Any more info and a fixed link would be great. Thanks -- biggins 07:49, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Page says " As of 2003, the most spaceflights by an individual astronaut was seven", but not who did that. Andy Mabbett 19:07, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
- It's both Jerry Ross and Franklin Chang-Diaz - Jerry Ross actually made the record just 2 month before Chang-Diaz followed. andy 19:14, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
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Table?
A lot of the stuff in the space milestones section should be in a table I think.
Also, I think the use of the more neutral term "space traveller" might be useful than using the American term "astronaut" most of the time.
- I agree, why must we use the American term? Because it's American?
civilians
I still don't know how many civilians have been in space. The first section says that the Americans take a fairly lax definition of astronaut (people in training and people who have been on the edge of space, but not actually in space), then later in the section on non-military personnel the article talks about two people who only match up to the american definition (the first died before they got into space, the second only went to the edge). So who was the first non-military person in space, by international (npov) definitions?
p.s. - I've taken the 'badly-constructed' bit out because it doesn't say why it's badly constructed - a similar Latin/Greek word (Television) says its a hybrid word, mentioning nothing about being badly contructed. sheridan 20:45, 2005 Jan 8 (UTC)
- IIRC the first American who was totally a civilian in space was probably Jack Schmitt on Apollo 17. All the previous Americans had been in the military before and this was primarily why they were selected - ie excellent test pilots. Even guys like Neil Armstrong who is often described as being civlian had been military pilots, though sometimes they had retired from the forces before being selected.
- Of course I can't speak for the Russians. Probably be looking at one of the members of the Voskhod 1 crew, one of whom was a designeer (supposedly put there to guarantee his design would work!) and another was a doctor. Evil Monkey → Talk 21:22, Jan 8, 2005 (UTC)
- The main reason I focused on this is because I read or heard once (typically it was a long time ago and I don't have the slightest idea what the source was) that all the early astronauts were military while all the early cosmonauts were civilian. While that's obviously wrong, especially in the light of this article, I was wondering what the truth was. sheridan 17:59, 2005 Jan 11 (UTC)
- All the early Soviet cosmonauts (and probably still today) were military pilots of some sort. Valentina Tereshcova may not have been but I do remember that she was involved in parachuting which was why she was selected (the cosmonauts were nothing more than passengers but were ejected just while they were still descending as the capsule landing would have been quite rough). Evil Monkey → Talk 07:47, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)
Taikonaut probably not coined by Chiew Lee Yih
Is there any proof that Taikonaut was coined by Chiew Lee Yih aside from the usenet post on May 19, 1998? In standard Mandarin spoken on the Republic of China, astronaut is called "Tai Kon Ren". I am almost certain that many other people might have called Chinese astronauts "Taikonauts".
- The earliest use of the term found in Google Groups is on that date.[1] (http://groups.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&threadm=b5hzgate.356203c7.9870729%40news2.ibm.net&rnum=322&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dtaikonaut%26start%3D320%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3Db5hzgate.356203c7.9870729%2540news2.ibm.net%26rnum%3D322) Evil Monkey → Talk 03:07, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)
Subjects I'd like to see written about
I'm interested in how astronauts live; how they exercise, eat, sleep, and so on. I haven't seen any such information on the 'pedia yet. Ground 19:38, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
UK Astro/Spatio/Whateverionauts
- European (outside of the UK) space travellers are called spationauts
So what would people-who've-been-to-space from the UK be called? There doesn't seem to be any mention. Isn't the UK a partner in the ESA? Then why not Spationaut? Perhaps it's an English speaking thing, in which case, would this apply to Irish / Australians / etc.? In any case, the actual terms for UK people-who've-been-to-space should be given, or the "outside of the UK" should be removed.--Malcohol 14:35, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)