Talk:Ancient Rome
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Don't delete, I dont' have the time to start the article but it is the current COTW. For those who do look at the Ancient Rome list.Falphin 17:39, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Moved the downfall up. The history sections should be connected. Ideally, this article should resemble that of a modern nation I think. Fornadan 22:32, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
This is an excellent COTW. Such an important topic but so little information on the most important page about it. I'll start working on it :-) --Chino 04:56, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
What to include?
The current version has a section concerning the the Pantheon. I would suggest that this article is not a place to discuss individual temples, persons, cities (other than Rome itself), technologies, works of literature etc. If we were to do that, the article would soon grow out of all proportion. --Chino 06:03, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- I have now completely changed the "religion" section of the article. Please help me to improve it, especially with spelling :-) The table that was there can now be found at Roman mythology. --Chino 15:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
How should this article treat the Byzantine empire. Arguably, it was the same country or state as the ancient Rome. Also, we shouldn't forget other countries/states that claimed to be the "new Rome", i.e. Holy Roman Empire, Russia, possibly others. Zocky 13:44, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- My suggestion would be to treat them in a paragraph titled "Successor states" or something along those lines. Byzantine empire had a history, culture, administration, language, and religion so different from Roman Empire that I think it goes beyong the scope of this article. --Chino 14:31, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
I think a section on construction and engineering is missing yet crucial. When I think of Ancient Rome, I think of roads, aqueducts, sanitation and massive buildings like the coliseum. --Johny 16:44, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Viewpoints
The current version of the "Decline and fall" -section is very much centered on Gibbon. Perhaps it would need some more contemporary viewpoints? I'm mostly interested in the Republic, so somebody with real knowledge might update it. --Chino 06:03, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- I have no problem with contemporary views but Gibbon should be included since there is no definite view. This would show how views have changed from his time. Vincent Gray 13:05, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- Agree --Chino 14:31, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- while gibbons is the canon here the brevity with which he is dealt give somewhat false impression of the state of affairs here. the decline of rural lands was as much a force of taxation rules on cultivated land as all the other stated issues here, c.f. N.J.G.Pounds, which caused degredation of the status of colonii to that of near slave. would also be nice to see a section on roman influence in the fuedal manse.
Other articles
There's the list of Ancient Rome-related topics to mine for stuff, but there's also Culture of Ancient Rome, which partly overlaps with this. Zocky 02:04, 24 May 2005 (UTC)