Talk:Amish
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Is it impossible to link to Japanese language pages? I tried to link to [[ja:A[~bV]] but it doesn't show up after I save. I can link though from the Esperanto Amish page to the Japanese page.
- It is possible to do it, as I've seen Japanese links work correctly. What's the exact title of the Japanese page? Maybe I can figure it out. The Esperanto page displays only ???? on my browser, though the link works fine. Tokerboy
- I linked successfully from the article on PA Dutch/German but I have not been able to do so with this person's Amish article. The title for the japanese article is "Amishu" written in katakana script.
- But what are you supposed to type? I don't know how to write in katakana. I'll leave a message for User:Brion Vibber as he may know how to fix the link. Tokerboy
-- It doesn't show up even if I write it. I tried to write it in the first paragraph :). If you want to know how to get to the Japanese Amish page you can go to the page on PA German and go to the Japanese version and from there hit the link in the article. Then you have the Japanese version of the Amish. It is pretty small because my Japanese abilities are limited.
- Unfortunately, all I get is question marks as I don't have any fonts that can display Japanese characters. (Unless every word in Japanese really is "???????", but I imagine that would be confusing.) Tokerboy 05:05 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)
- It works now. I found the article through the Esperanto page, then copied the name in the address bar. You can use ja:アーミッシュ or [[ja:アーミッシュ]], on a talk page showing up as ja:アーミッシュ; in Esperanto the Japanese characters themselves were in the edit box, and when I tried to copy these to the edit box in the English wikipedia, that did not work. I changed the Esperanto link to one of the other two forms to enable copying. - Patrick 11:17 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)
The off site link gives some very questionable information about the Amish (and when one looks for the bibliographical backup for some of the questionable information one gets a website link that no longer exists!). I thus changed the offsite link to http://www.800padutch.com/amish.shtml which I believe is far more accurate.
"Worldly modern appliances such as televisions, light bulbs, and hair dryers often use 110 or 240 volt electricity, and will not operate under twelve volt current."
A small nitpick: volt is not the unit of electric current (see Current_(electricity) and Ohm's law). I suggest changing the sentence to "Most twelve volt power sources can't generate enough current to power worldly modern appliances such as televisions, light bulbs, and hair dryers."
- Since no one voiced objections, I went ahead and made the changes.
Amish life styles
Being a former Amish, I get very perturbed on some "fact" that I hear from time to time regarding the Amish. Even though I choose to abandon the community, I still have the utmost respect. Regarding the issue with a 16-year old being of age was not true in my community. Of age meant 21+ years-of-age, not 16.
Also, I keep hearing (from outsiders of course) about Amish teenagers being allowed to choose their lifestyle. That is almost an outrage. Amish beliefs forbid someone to choose, scripture says that one must remain in what they were taught - thus, born amish must remain amish. I would like to know where this originated from. What Amish community allows their children to choose the "outside", the modern lifestyle??? Yes, they may "choose" their lifestyle, but they certainly will then be shunned/banned or otherwise considered to have lost grace with God and will NOT enter the Kingdom of God for they live in great sin. Do not confuse allow with inability to control.
And by the way, the movie Witness has many, many flaws. It cannot be used as educational film.
If no one will provide me with a credible source to the above "choose your own lifestyle" claim, I will delete it.
The place I saw about this period of going out into the "English" world and choosing whether or not to return was in the documentary The Devil's Playground. It referred to this time as "rumspringa" and followed the lives of a variety of Pennsylvania and Ohio Amish teenagers.
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Someone needs to fix up how clearly two people have written this page and one of them has copied a lot of stuff of the others. In 'Status' there is repetition of the Dutch/Deutsch comment, and also later a repetition of the Devil's Playground comment.