Talk:Alfred Dreyfus
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Regarding the "pisse-froid" thing:
- Alfred Dreyfus est un homme profondément patriote et s'il n'avait pas été la victime de cette affaire il eût été certainement anti-dreyfusard!! C'est enfin un homme intransigeant, hautain, peu liant avec ses camarades officiers. Il est un "pisse-froid" comme l'on dit alors dans l'armée. [1] (http://www.ac-poitiers.fr/hist_geo/doss/drey/dreufusard.htm)
Perhaps someone would like to translate this and incorporate it into the article. --Ed Poor
Well, the article you are referring to says that "pisse-froid" belongs to the military slang of the time. The designation of Dreyfus as such and the rest of the "humourous" comments seem to be only the creation of the author of the article. The fact that this derogatory comments have been made by the author of another article does not justify that we should include it in the 'pedia. That would be OK if it had been (or actually has been) written in a newspaper or report of the time. - User:Olivier
- I used the above source when I first put this material together. I admit that the above is the work of the article's author but he also adds
- "Officier incomplet, très intelligent et très bien doué, mais prétentieux et ne remplissant pas au point de vue du caractère, de la conscience et de la manière de servir les conditions nécessaires pour être employé à l'Etat-Major de l'armée."( extrait du rapport de stage d'Alfred Dreyfus à l'Etat-Major, Colonel Fabre, chef du 4eme bureau)
- This latter is a foundation for the earlier quote, and it certainly has a bearing on understanding Dreyfus' character. In a military setting where camaraderie can play an important role, this kind of "pisse-froid" personality could get him in the mess he found himself in much faster than being Jewish. My previous translation of this as "cold fish" now doesn't seem strong enough; I'll have to think of something better for when I put it back in. Eclecticology
Good job with the new version! - User:Olivier
The library of École polytechnique states that Dreyfus is X1878, not X1877. I'll try to get things clearer. David.Monniaux 12:30, 17 May 2005 (UTC)