Talk:Alexandra Kerry
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IS SHE FOR REAL. HOW CAN SHE DRESS LIKE THAT. IF I WAS HER PARENTS I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SHOW MY FACE. I WOULD BE SO ASHAMED AND SO SHOULD SHE. SIGN CAROL IN PHOENIX
- At least she knows where the Shift key is. DJ Clayworth 16:34, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
God for bid that anyone uses caps. But this is not the issue. It's the way she was dressed in public. Knowing her father is running for President. What ever was she thinking. Let me guess, she wasn't.........
Can Wikipedia use this picture of Alexandra Kerry? From what I remember, it looks like the photos distributed by news agencies. Could it be a copyvio? Andris 19:10, May 27, 2004 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure. Seems to belong to the AFP. [2] (http://snopes.com/photos/risque/kerry.asp) Btw, shouldn't the incident at Cannes be mentioned? Johnleemk 11:52, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
flash
It's the use of flash. It sees through some materials. Just like you shouldn't wear white into the water, you shouldn't wear black where you're going to get flash pictures taken of you. I'm sure she had no idea the picture would look like this.
Sure makes it interestng to look at though! :)
Can I just say that it's a nice photo. I'm no liberal but I'd vote for her!!!
- That is not the most flattering photo we could have chosen for a presidential candidate's eldest daughter. Although I assume we're in our rights to put the picture on the page, couldn't we find a more dignified one? --Ardonik 03:16, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)
- After another reading, I suppose it is relevant to the article. That doesn't mean I have to like it. --Ardonik 03:19, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)
- Anonymous user 67.180.24.204 just removed the image in question, calling it a "copyright violation" in the edit sumamry. Since both images were lifted from the same source, but the anonymous user conveniently forgot to unlink the other one, the edit was probably done out of prudishness. Whether it's a real copyright violation or not is still in question (it's probably valid under fair use), but lying about the reasons for an edit is not acceptable. I'm reverting the change, and explaining my revert on Wikipedia:Copyright problems. --Ardonik 05:20, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)
- After another reading, I suppose it is relevant to the article. That doesn't mean I have to like it. --Ardonik 03:19, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)
- It was me, and I'm no prude. (My motivations are irrelevant in any case). I didn't know the source of the other picture. But the source of the one 'naked' one is explained above in Talk. It's a wire service photo taken by a commercial photographer. We have no more right to use it for free than does the NY Times or Washington Post. If the other picture is also taken by a commercial photographer, it should also be removed. Just because we would like a free picture, does not mean we get to grab whatever we want. Anybody who wants to get jollies of Alexandra's jugs can just Google it. But Wiki policy is to respect copyright.
Picture, picture.
After a little research both pictures are in fact "copyvio" because they were taken by a commercial photographer. The photographer was charging a pretty hefty price for the picture when it was first released so remember, copyright law allows for up to 3 times the damages! Also note, I removed the link to the [Snopes page on the dress (http://www.snopes.com/photos/risque/kerry.asp) because it isn't even factual. From the page:
- Claim: Photograph shows Alexandra Kerry in a see-through dress.
- Status: True.
- "The family members of politicians don't generally receive this much exposure, but Alexandra Kerry — daughter of Masschusetts senator and presumptive 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry — did in May 2004 when she attended a Cannes Film Festival event wearing the sheer, translucent black gown pictured above."
She wasn't wearing a "translucent" dress... we've covered this before. The dress looked that way when the flash hit it... jeez JoeHenzi 23:15, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
just by way of reference, note that jenna bush's bare breast incident was was purged (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Barbara_and_Jenna_Bush&diff=7108404&oldid=7087902) from wikipedia. Wolfman 22:02, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)