Talk:Abstract expressionism

Somebody added Piet Mondriaan as an abstract expressionist, but I've removed him. It's probably true that had he worked in the US after World War II he would have been called abstract expressionist, but as he worked in Holland before World War II he never is. --Camembert


I disagree, as I find that alot of Mondrains work is abstract,as he create images of landscapes that appear to be a selection of squares.Just because he didnt produce work in New York before and after WW II , why should that effect him being an adstract expressionist??

Because then no Americans would ever know about De Stijl, that's why. (Not that many seem to anyway, but that's another matter.) Either way, the Abstract Expressionists were not the only Abstract artists ever, and Abstract art isn't necessarily always AbEx. --Bảo 20:10, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Gestural and Chromatic Abstraction

I never thought I'd ever end up saying something like this, but... why is there no mention of the AbEx subcategories chromatic abstraction and gestural abstraction? I'm not making these things up. Behold, cited definitions:

  • chromatic abstraction— A kind of Abstract Expressionism that focused on the emotional resonance of color, as exemplified by the work of Barnett Newman and Mark Rothko. (pg 1095, Glossary)
  • gestural abstraction— Also known as action painting. A kind of abstract painting in which the gesture, or act of painting, is seen as the subject of art. Its most renowned proponent was Jackson Pollock. (pg 1097, Glossary)

It might be useful to point out these, or even just use them to organize the current list of artists differently, as there is a difference between the two that can be confusing to people who don't know it's there. --Bảo 20:10, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

I've found out the problem with gestural abstraction— the Wikipedia article on it is under action painting, but gestural abstraction doesn't redirect to it. Going to fix that now. --Bảo 20:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
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