Someone who can read Hungarian should at least translate what www.th.hu is and put that as the title of our external link. --Shallot 12:36, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The translation is:

">>The fist of labour class<<, the State Protection Authority – exhibition in the Office of History."

But I think the "History of AVH" is a good title, too. Gubbubu (labour class = working class in english?)

What does it mean "mob" in english?

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Labouring class = working class. "Mob" = the group that makes riot or affray. Its usually used in a perjorative sense. We are a peaceful protest, they are a violent mob. Fifelfoo 22:07, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Well, it seems to me this article needs a little NPOV correction, maybe some sentence (containing the expression "mob") was taken from a history book written by communists before the 80s. The referred article about the hungarian revolution in 56 is much more correct. Gubbubu 17:24, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wel, I don't think Dudas was a nacionalist, he was rather communist, see here (http://www.sulinet.hu/tananyag/97110/on/szerviz/kislex/biograf/dudas.htm). He was entered in the transilvanian illegal communist movement at about 1920, later he orientated to FKGP, but he did't give up his communist connections. His 25 points - independence, bringing down the goverment (they don't speak for us ... :-)), etc. contains no nacionalism. He was far left, I think. Gubbubu

I have a different recollection on my readings on the Dudas group. I'll meet you back here when I have sources. My recollection of his points were that: they enshrined a Dudas lead dictatorship and ignored all other revolutionary and democratic forces; and, that Dudas' politics included revanchevist and anti-Semetic attacks. I won't have my sources ready until January. (and unfortunately I don't have Magyar, so I can't read the source you posted) Fifelfoo 22:39, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

My critics:

• What are your resources? If you write about 1956 or about hungarian topics in the second half of the XX cent., please be careful and watch if those resources have been written after 1990, or not by old or reform- communists (Ferenc Glatz, Gyula Horn, Iván Pető, Árpád Göncz, etc.). Some of them (Glatz, Göncz) are quite reliable, but must be treaten with critics.
• "Dictatorship", antisemitism are not characteristical criteria of beeing on the right. These can be found on the left, tho, especially "dictatorship" in hungary, where leftmen lead a hard dictature over 40 years.
• Yes, Dudes maybe was an autocrat, but it is not sure ha was a "rightman", correlation of these concepts is so more complex.
• The terminology left-wing and right-wing isn't so up-to-date anyway. See "left-wing" Tony Blair shaking hands cynycal with Bush: is he on the left-wing?
• Anti-semitism, fascism etc. is the most complex series. Communist used this word in a particular meaning (anti-communism), funnily for the revolution. The basis of their counter-revolutional propaganda was the revolutioners were fascist and anti-semitists. This wasn't true. Even more, this terms have been used for forty years for all form of anti-communism and anti-dictature-attitude - and some of the mentioned people above, exactly Pető (whom mother and father both were members of the ÁVH) and his friends use this stigmatizing propaganda nowadays, too. So if you read something like this, try to read more, if it was true? (Audiatur et altera pars) Gubbubu 07:47, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)