Talk:Vulva
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"Something shameful to be hidden"
- Western cultures have commonly viewed the vulva as something shameful to be hidden . . .
I wonder about the "shameful" aspect. Is it not rather an object of modesty -- as opposed to shame? I am not in any way ashamed of my sexual organs, but I'm very reluctant to show them to other people. I avoid group showers, for example.
- sigh* perhaps an article on Modesty is in order?
- In my opinion, yes it is. There is propensity in our society to view virtues as shameful, which seems inherently contradictory to me. As a witness to this, I note the almost violent reaction to teaching abstinence by a very vocal group in our society. Perhaps the 'popular' understanding of shame/freudian psychology is the source. I'm not sure.
- Um, bullshit. 'Virtues' are relative. Just because you've been raised to believe in certain virtues doesn't mean anything else than that you have been raised to believe in certain virtues. Abstinence for the sake of abstinence (as in religously motivated) is insanity in my world. Sex is good, just play it safe.
Including a diagram, a photograph, or neither
Analogy with Penis
It's strange that photos of Penis are allowed but photos of Vulva have been removed, though both originate from the same site (alt.sex FAQ, http://www.luckymojo.com/faqs/altsex/) -- 210.214.131.161 18:41, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Why can a penus be shown but not a vulva? Perhaps another men think of sex, women don't mindset? please, dont give me that bull.... A photo of a vulva is due here, either that or eliminate the penis photo too. Antonio Vulva Man Martin
Image already at Clitoris
If whoever uploaded Image:Clitoris.jpg could remove the zoomed box, it would do well for an illustration on (or at least a link from) this entry. Marnanel 03:26, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- It's been replaced (by an image whose copyright/license isn't disputed).
A picture of a human vulva that I find aesthetically more pleasing, but doesn't show the clitoris glans or urethra.
Here are two images that might be a little more aesthetically pleasing than the current. The only way in which these images are inferior to the one currently on the page is that the clitoris glans is covered by this female's larger clitoral hood. On the other hand, these images are far higher resolution, are in colour, are better lit, and are available for adding text in other languagues. PhiloVivero 14:01, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)Missing image
HumanVulva-NoText-PhiloVivero.jpgThe same picture, without text or copyright information to allow for translations into other languages.
- It's been replaced (by an image whose copyright/license isn't disputed).
Links to deleted images
Moved from Wikipedia:Village pump on Saturday, August 2nd, 02003.
Could someone take a look at vulva? It contains two image-links which point to deleted(?) images. I presume the whole block of stuff surrounding the links should be deleted, but I am hesitant to do so, since I haven't really figured out this whole image-thing. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick 14:55 25 Jul 2003 (UTC)
New image - from Perineum
I dared to be bold and included the picture of a vulva (quite conveniently already with explanations) that I found at perineum. What do you think of it? - Marcika 18:06, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Dear God, I never thought I could find that kind of ugly picture just browsing by clicking "ramdom Page". To make it short, I don't like it at all and think we should just find a good drawing ... Aurevilly 16:47, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- The image, while generally good, should label the vaginal opening and the approximate location of the urethral opening. Arguably, most men/boys interested in learning about the vulva want to know where the vaginal opening and the clitoris are, for obvious reasons. AxelBoldt 16:50, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- The image from User_talk:PhiloVivero is slightly less ugly and available in a higer resolution... [1] (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2f/200px-VulvaDiagram-800.jpg) The picture here should be probably changed, once PhiloVivero deletes the copyright notice from the new one. - Marcika 18:03, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Spurious word
80.40.54.184 (Spurious word 'wicked ' replaced by meaningful 'introduced'): "wicked" isn't a spurious word. Obscure, perhaps: "wick, v. To convey or be conveyed by capillary action". That said, "introduced" is clearer. Marnanel 14:41, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Concur. Although I disagreed with the reason for changing my word, I left the edit alone because I concede that "introduced" has less potential to confuse. Matt gies 19:57, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Homologues
- The clitoral hood is analogous to the foreskin, not the scrotum, right? The article seems to disagree.
Image and page protection
I'm going to lock this page for a little while due to a revert war that is happening (I locked it a few hours after the last revert). I would appreciate it if we could talk about it on this talk page first. - Ta bu shi da yu 12:59, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Disturbing images
Wikipedia:Graphic and potentially disturbing images: “This is a proposal to regulate the policy on graphic images that could be potentially disturbing to Wikipedia users. The policy shall be discussed for a period of two weeks, also giving users a chance to draft their own policy proposals, and the voting will start on December 15 and last for one week.” For anyone who is disturbed by penis, clitoris, or any other body parts (including fingernails covered with certain shades of nail polish), that discussion and a subsequent voting seems to be a good place to voice your opinion in a way more reasonable than vandalism and edit wars like the one that is taking place on Clitoris. Rafał Pocztarski 06:20, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I just looked at clitoris, and I don't see any vandalism there. 12:35, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- The poll above has closed, and there is no clear consensus. Andrew pmk 01:24, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Actually one of the proposals (reproduced below) gained a strong consensus, with 33 for and 5 opposing.
- Do nothing now, as there's not really a problem now. Revist this if it ever becomes a widespread problem that can't adequately be handled on a case by case basis on individual article talk pages as it is now. Policy should only ever be developed on an as needed basis, as excessive policy is both wasteful and harmful.
--Tony Sidaway|Talk 05:47, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Stop adding new vulva images
Please refrain from adding images that just show the vulva when we already have a more informative one. I am referring to Media:Vulva.jpg. LostAccount 17:37, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I am going to remove the image (Image:Vulva.jpg)until we get some proof that it the uploader either ownes copyright to the photo or permission has been given to use it. --Clawed 01:43, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
![[1]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2f/200px-VulvaDiagram-800.jpg){kind=link}