Talk:Volga German
From Academic Kids
This is barely English, poorly organized, and I have a bad feeling about it. It's reminiscent of User:H.J.. Vicki Rosenzweig 21:50 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- Yes, it could be better written, but from the history, people from 2 different IP addresses (clearly not from the same subnet) editted it before I touched it. (And for one of them, English not her/his first language.) And from my knowledge of Russian history, it appears to be accurate so far -- it's clearly a stub.
- If you'd like, Vicki, I'll add it to my watch list & help it along. I'm willing to take the risk that this won't become another point of bitterness here on WikiP. -- llywrch 03:45 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)
The Article Germans from Russia which is about an American ethnic group has been redirected here, truncated and merged. I think it should go back to being an independent article. The story of the Volga Germans, is also very interesting and can be substantially expanded, but is really a different story as the division between the two groups generally occured before the Revolution. The only contact most Americans of German-Russian heritage ever had was an occasional pitiful letter from distant relatives. Fred Bauder 15:59, Apr 5, 2004 (UTC)
- I second that. Let's start from the separation within the current article first. Mikkalai 16:52, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I have created a stub German-Russian for information on people of German ethnic background who have adopted Russian culture such as Lenin or Vilyam Genrikovich Fisher.
--- My sources are people I "interviewed" - my parents and grandparents OGT
Volga-germanism of most of thse people is not verifiable in wikipedia. NOt to say what Catherine the Great is doing here.
- Descendants of Germans from Russia include John Denver, Lawrence Welk, Angie Dickinson, Steven Dietz, Dawna Friesen, Jeff Friesen, Robyn Regehr, Matt Groening, Chris Isaak, Jesse M. Unruh, Tom Daschle, Roy Romer, Cheryl Ladd, and Sergio Denis.
- Public persons some not quite so famous include Catherine the Great, Les Dudek,
John Hessler ,John Klein, Leroy Lehr. Adolph Lesser, Svyatoslav Richter, George Henry Sauer, Nancy Jones Schaefer, Willard Schmidt, Alfred Schnittke, Ron Schuele, Armin Mueller-Stahl , Benjamin F. Brack, Oscar Brosz, Al Duerr, Merle Freitag, Charles Gemar, Jim Geringer, Count Hans Moritz Haucke, Richard Hieb, Robert W. Hirsch, Joseph Kessler, Otto Krueger, Roland Kunfeld, Count Fyodor Petrovich Litke, Reuben Metter, David J. Miller, Allen Neuharth, Toby Roth, Harvey Wollman, Dr. George P. Epp, and Rudy Wiebe
I suspect these lists were simply copied from some webpages. Many of the persons are probably not famous. You cannot just trow a bunch of names into an encyclopedia without saying a word about them, unless the name is of world fame. But in the last case at least a stub is reasonably to expect. Please clean this up. Mikkalai 20:50, 17 May 2004 (UTC)
