Talk:The Birth of a Nation
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Question for all film buffs. Since when is he referred to as David Griffith? I have always seen him as D. W. Griffith. In any event, the article about him was also redirected to David Griffith from D. W. Why? Danny
Producer
When we studied this film in school, it was brought up that DW Griffith not only directed it, he also produced it with his own money. This was considered important because it meant that he put up his money to produce his own point of view and then get others to pay him to see it. It goes against the idea that only a government can produce propaganda. In this case, a single man produced it. Should that be part of the article? Kainaw 15:56, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Also perhaps more of a discussion of the affect it had on the racial dialogue in the country. Woodrow Wilson (then president) reportedly said (after viewing the movie); "I have seen it, it is amazing, like writing history with lightning. The only sad thing is that it is all so terribly true!" That kind of remark is an important milestone in American Civil Liberties, showing exactly how little things changed.
Enough of the Liberal Circlejerk
Why not quit talking about how to scrutinize this movie and portray it as racist and simply recognize it for what it was? It's culturally significant in the same way "The Triumph of the Will" was or "Battleship Potemkin" was. Both were horribly atrocious pieces of propaganda glorifying two equally wrong ideaologies but we recognize that they both contributed to the rise of modern cinema. Potemkin practically invented the Montage. - Kade 02:01, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Wrong facts
I have not seen this movie, but know for a fact that some (most?) of the black characters were acted by blacks and another percentage were white people in blackface. The article states that all black characters were played by whites, which is wrong. I'd update the article but I don't know whether to say "some" or "most".
- The article may state that in the trivia section, but almost every single line in the trivia section is taken word for word from the IMDb page on the film. Is this acceptable 'fair use'? I am somewhat doubtful. Telsa 21:14, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- Further to that, on advice from #wikipedia, I have removed the entire section of trivia which was clearly from the IMDb page (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0004972/trivia). --Telsa 22:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)